Dear Diary!

[sdmhred]

I tried to order tests this week as a healthcare worker and that is no longer possible.

You‘re right we have lost the focus on the vulnerable - and any responsibility to them. But as this site shows that attitude goes way beyond covid. I wonder if Asian cultures who respect their elders are keeping to mask wearing etc. They are traditionally better at that. Masks became toxic here didnt they which was a shame.

i have to say the NHS carers we had were good with masks - I requested on the assessment and every carer came with one on - I had some ready to offer but they were never needed.

 

[jennifer1967]

The shop thing I understand I suppose, personal choice and all that, was just taken by surprise that no precautions were taken for a home visit with those responsible having multiple contacts with vulnerable groups!

Yep we 'booked' ours ages ago with a promise of being sorted in two weeks max... we waited a lot longer however with continuing text alerts & letter reminders. Just dropped lucky today being in, there was no hint at all that they were coming.

i have podiatrist, nurse for blood test, paramedics, even the careline people. none wear masks and dont expect us to. my husband is exempt any way. he is classed as extremely clinically vulnerable and had to shield but it doesnt matter any more.

 

[nitram]

I was ECV.
Recent ordering of cohorts has shown that my age is now considered a greater risk.

 

[colpatben]

This is my 'Go To' thread from our dinner table.

Who in there right mind buys a red called Round & Plummy?

Well me actually. £5.30 from.... (it's on the label).

Going down well.

Colin

 

[Eddcorner]

I tried to order tests this week as a healthcare worker and that is no longer possible.

You‘re right we have lost the focus on the vulnerable - and any responsibility to them. But as this site shows that attitude goes way beyond covid. I wonder if Asian cultures who respect their elders are keeping to mask wearing etc. They are traditionally better at that. Masks became toxic here didnt they which was a shame.

i have to say the NHS carers we had were good with masks - I requested on the assessment and every carer came with one on - I had some ready to offer but they were never needed.

I must say that every Asian family which I've observed in the local community are continuing to wear masks but this was a consistent feature anyways before Covid struck, more people should follow their lead methinks!

It's a sad reflection on society that when you reach a certain 'best before' date older people are very much marginalised and those with difficulties even more so Additionally on all my travels even in developing countries the elderly have status - revered even; how is it then that in the sixth richest nation on the planet this vulnerable group are so easily discarded? Makes me ashamed and very angry 😠

Every healthcare worker on the front line should have access to free testing. Another nonsense @sdmhred!

 

[notsogooddtr]

I think the bottom line is that the pandemic is now over.No need for testing or isolation.Normal service to be resumed.

 

[Eddcorner]

I think the bottom line is that the pandemic is now over.No need for testing or isolation.Normal service to be resumed.

My main concern is my mum who is in the 'extremely clinically vulnerable' group. I understand people's views will vary but I'll stick to my guns on this one and with mum having been in hospital during the past we are not eager to return to what was a very traumatic experience for us both. Her physical and psychological wellbeing on this basis remains paramount as always.

 

[Eddcorner]

This is my 'Go To' thread from our dinner table.

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Who in there right mind buys a red called Round & Plummy?

Well me actually. £5.30 from.... (it's on the label).

Going down well.

Colin

Round and Plummy! Loving it haha

 

[jennifer1967]

My main concern is my mum who is in the 'extremely clinically vulnerable' group. I understand people's views will vary but I'll stick to my guns on this one and with mum having been in hospital during the past we are not eager to return to what was a very traumatic experience for us both. Her physical and psychological wellbeing on this basis remains paramount as always.

my husband is in the same category but exempt from wearing a mask. he has had all his booster and jabs but he does go out. after a year shielding, he wants some quality of life. no-one wears a mask when they come in and tbh he wants to be "normal". ive protected him as much as i can but i cant prevent him having a life.

 

[Eddcorner]

my husband is in the same category but exempt from wearing a mask. he has had all his booster and jabs but he does go out. after a year shielding, he wants some quality of life. no-one wears a mask when they come in and tbh he wants to be "normal". ive protected him as much as i can but i cant prevent him having a life.

Totally understand your husband's position and mum won't wear a mask either but I do expect people who have not had a booster or been vaccinated to wear a mask around mum in her house. Similarly I prefer health workers who have had multiple contacts with others to wear one too when visiting. It's a personal position and with mum having had pneumonia before in the past I see it as a must do thing, just refuse to chance it.

 

[Eddcorner]

Heating's been on nonstop this past couple of weeks and as we live in an old house can take ages to heat up... plus if I'm feeling the cold mum's definitely feeling it x10! Dread to think what our bill is going to be but it stays on for as long as it needs to.

 

[notsogooddtr]

My main concern is my mum who is in the 'extremely clinically vulnerable' group. I understand people's views will vary but I'll stick to my guns on this one and with mum having been in hospital during the past we are not eager to return to what was a very traumatic experience for us both. Her physical and psychological wellbeing on this basis remains paramount as always.

I was being ironic-Covid will be with us forever but the official line is that it’s over.I appreciate that we need to get back to normal but there are still people for whom Covid will be very nasty.My husband is one of them and he is still quite anxious.

 

[Chizz]

Whilst there will always be lots of people who are clinically vulnerable to infections, etc, the Covid is "over" thinking is that we - as a general population - just have to live with it, as we do with flu, the common cold etc.

The clinically vulnerable with other conditions still need caring for, as ever.

 

[Eddcorner]

I was being ironic-Covid will be with us forever but the official line is that it’s over.I appreciate that we need to get back to normal but there are still people for whom Covid will be very nasty.My husband is one of them and he is still quite anxious.

My sincerest apologies @notsogooddtr! I am a literal thinker and will often miss the obvious... It is a challenging time with conflicting messages - it's over but the risk is still high, more so during the winter period, get your booster etc. etc. A right proper mess and no wonder our anxieties remain high :/

 

[sdmhred]

I’m disappointed that the country and system doesnt seem to have learned from the pandemic - especially in protecting the vulnerable. We know masks and distancing protect people so it does seem non sensical not to use them around the highest at risk. Surely the cost of masks at pennies is cheaper too than having some one elderly admitted for covid or flu.

Also I struggle that people are still determined to go in to the office full of bugs….many a time I have heard…’oh I shouldnt be here’……well that’s too late for the immunosuppressed person in the table over the way 😢

 

[jennifer1967]

they are only just doing the covid enquiry. weve got no hope in infection control according to that

 

[Eddcorner]

Whilst there will always be lots of people who are clinically vulnerable to infections, etc, the Covid is "over" thinking is that we - as a general population - just have to live with it, as we do with flu, the common cold etc.

The clinically vulnerable with other conditions still need caring for, as ever.

It will always be a concern that we 'normalise' such issues, for me however that will never be the case... there are too many unanswered questions still. Watching the Covid inquiry and listening to the evidence has been chilling, especially when you hear of Boris Johnson's very Malthusian approach to the elderly.

 

[sdmhred]

i can’t follow the enquiry …it’s just too painful…I was living on my own so no social contact…and hairing it 2 hours away to care but knowing the local police were pulling people over for being out of area

makes me very cross 😡😡

 

[notsogooddtr]

I’m disappointed that the country and system doesnt seem to have learned from the pandemic - especially in protecting the vulnerable. We know masks and distancing protect people so it does seem non sensical not to use them around the highest at risk. Surely the cost of masks at pennies is cheaper too than having some one elderly admitted for covid or flu.

Also I struggle that people are still determined to go in to the office full of bugs….many a time I have heard…’oh I shouldnt be here’……well that’s too late for the immunosuppressed person in the table over the way 😢

I work for a government department , no more special measures for Covid so if you are off sick the disciplinary clock is ticking

 

[Eddcorner]

i can’t follow the enquiry …it’s just too painful…I was living on my own so no social contact…and hairing it 2 hours away to care but knowing the local police were pulling people over for being out of area

makes me very cross 😡😡

When I have a 'quiet hour' I indulge but not full on, makes me feel very heated to say the least 😡 I just know the big impact it made on mum's cognitive presentation, she took a very big hit as we had little or no contact with anyone... The psychological consequences of ill thought out measures for so many is now clearly evident