I have just received a phone call from Social services day centre , asking if mum not taken her medication or needs an injection , what injection ? I said she does not take injections , what do you mean , she said that my mother
behavior changing , they never seen her like this before being very rude to people , she not physical aggressive just verbal aggressive , she fail so does not impose any harm!

I said has she seen someone talking to some man she like they called Tim ?

No she said

she been talking about thumping a woman that keep talking to Tom, because she taken him away from her . She thought she may be having a delusion .


So I said no , she talking about someone at AZ day centre that she like , (I have told mum not to hit anyone or they stop her from going . My mother said oh no she would not do that)



So I said but they someone at your day center called Tim ? Yes they is she said . well my mother like him also .

confusing or what ! So I said . some woman could be talking to him, she got the hump.

Oh she said your mother got a crash on him .






I ask her why has mum been coming home with different trouser on , has she been doing a number 2 , yes she said , as your mother sits they just S%$T herself ( her words ) .

I told her it never happen at home , so she said . she needs prompting now , so now she tell her to go to the toilet and do a Cha Cha .

I said she droping the medication not working, ( its really slowing down down )


So I said before my mother had AZ , she was always very abrupt , rude with people she did not like.

She went on to say they nothing to worry about , just that they thought as it was a change in her behavior they thought she needed medication injection, she was on some type of medication, just needed some more.

what! I said Ant psychotic ? No way I said I would not allow my mother to take those type of medication.

Not to worry she said . To right because if they can't handle my mother she not going they no more.


This never happen in the AZ day center , or if it does they know how to handel my mother so much better .

 

Yes it is really got to be positive


Just thought of something . The other day when I said to her . Oh another pair of toruses , you phoo yourself , mum said yes but I don't do it hear . (meaning at home with me )

I better be care full what I say to her , because I get the feeling now , in her saying that to me she scared of something.


6 years of holding it all back , 6 years of reading what happens. its happing now, as lest now I know what to expect .

 

Just go to show how in a misconception how my mother perceive something gets the hump , and they wondering does she need an injection .

Just winds me up .

 

That what I thought at the beginning of the conversation so I did go on about mum blood tests half way though the conversation .( which reminds me that I have still not ask about , but I have made an appointment for myself next Thursday at the doctors )

She keep going on about how out character it was for my mother to be like that . abusive , but not physically abusive . she know my mother on tablets medication for her diabetic its on her files , as she really good know what to do when my mother sugar level go down so low .

As when we all went to Brighten seaside on a day trip , we all went for a meal mum collapsed at the table onto my lap she started shaking , she new how to bring her around with spoon full of sugar , while I look on in shock as I had never seen that happen to mum . Then
come around like nothing had happen or bright alert

So during conversation I had to tell her about the medication of Exbiza slowing down .


I don't I may be wrong , but its like mum real personality is coming back , or was
it not her real personality I saw in the delusion paranoia confusion in the mild / middle stages that made her think very delusional , paranoid, because she was not diagnosed with AZ till she was in the late stages . then it all went away delusional , paranoid, anger when she took exbiza in the late stages .

Now its all coming back , but its harmless irrational thinking . abusive verbally . can someone really be abusive who has AZ at someone ?
That how it must be perceived to the person they talking to or the general public .

I read when they are abusive verbally , its because they in pain or something upsetting them . They not abusive at the person , but something bothering them in they mind that they can't express in the normal way they use to .

 

Oh what a relief ! what I would do with out the Alzheimer' s Day Centre I do not know .


( AZ day center just pick her up )

They know how abrupt and upset mum gets with people that to she does not like , How upset she gets with one worker she does not like, so tell him , how she like some one , and not the other people . some woman talk to a man she like , mum does not like it , so get upset angry with the woman

So you've notices this in my mother before I ask her ? Oh yes . we understand its the illness, don't give her any medication for it . Oh no I won't I said . I felt like kissing her

 

That so true , that I am thinking about what to do with the other day centre ,

1 . give them one of my many books on AZ

2 Tell manger to send his staff to to a training course that the Alzheimer's society offer

3 I tell him to buy the training course/ video from the Alzheimer's society and I train his staff

 

Well I take the last post all back .

When they drop my mother of today I was told from one of the helper tomorrow to ring the manger at the AZ day centre as they think my mother would benefit from those drugs .


This time I she said what ? , would benefit from what anti psychotic drugs and she said yes .

so I said but I would need to phone doctor to get it ? she said phone Lynn ( manger tomorrow )

Am feeling a bit confused, shock , lost that they would say she benefit from them . as how would my mother benefit from anti psychotic drugs?

I shall have to phone up tomorrow find out what going on

 

Thank you for replying Joanne

The think is my mother live with in .


So when you say

I would have to go to the doctor talk to him all about it . as it be me in administering the drug

Its that she go to day center 5 days a week , so both day center are picking up on what you are also saying about more agitated in general.

( I shall ask Manger Lynn anyway what going on with my mother )


Was your mother living with you when they first started to give her anti-psychotics drugs ?

I don't find my mother any more challenging then normal . that what I can't understand why they can .

I just wonder if its because she in a cowed with lots of people , she just can't take it any more .

Have you got any thoughts on that please ?

PS Does they come a time when people with AZ can't go to day centre any more ?

 

Ps

Thanks for that site am looking at it xx


another PS what if I say . Well I don't want to give my mother on anti-psychotics drugs so that she can be control in a group of people ?

 

you have made a good point they Tina , as something is going on they about using the toilet, can't put my finger on it .

As in our toilet at home . I notice that she sit down on toilet then ask me to help her up .

Now on each side of her she has 2 hand rail to support herself to get up . I can not life her up because they no space at the side of the hand rail to life her up . I would have to pull her forward if you get my point .

when I say to her life yourself up she does it .

At day centre toilets are very big more space between hand rails and toilets .

then may be yes it could be a combination of the AZ progressing

So I wonder if she scared of being in they toilets alone trying to life herself up , or even with someone in they , because woman at social services Day center said she does give my mother paper to wipe herself .

As I said at home with me my mother ask for my help her wipe her bum , as she finding it hard now to wipe her own bum .


So all this aggregation she feeling could be , being scared or ****ed of that she having to take they help, so she not expressing herself saying she can't do it . they telling her yes she can .

so rather then ask for help . she does it in her pads .

God! thank - you Tina . Now how do I explain that to them .

 

I am going to have to be honest with them

Sorry , but i can't give my mother those drugs .

I am going to have to call SW to do a meeting with both day centers and review my mother care plan .

because if both days center can not offer my mother they support with out controlling it with anti psychotic drugs .

she going to have to stop going and they have to up my care plan and bring in carers , couple days a week to sit with my mother at home . so I can get out.

 

its the same as yours


She wants to talk to me about the changes she seem in my mother , and the
benefit in me getting my mother on those drugs . she can advice me thats all.

Yes I help her wipe her bum , but she still sits on Toilet . now then wets her pads a lot . but she won't stop using the toilet even with pads on, at home with me anyway

yes now that does sound like my mother

does that happen ? she does not walk so much as she use to is that why ?