yes Yes. And I wonder what consitutes "help". Its academic really because we wont be doing this, but her latest trick is to keep demanding we take a lot of paracetomal in to the home for her. she would still be perfectly able to swallow them by herself. I have refused to get into any discussions but it is heartbreaking when my children go and she tries to blackmail them into doing so by saying "As my grandsons you have to do this for me" I have told them not to go and see her by themselves any more .