I'm posting this feeling a bit silly because I'm failing to understand the funding process, even though I've read the rules several times. Can someone help me to clarify please.
I know that the upper limit is just over £23k in England, so if you are even a few pounds over that you are treated as a self funder. As a self funder you get to keep all of your income and benefits which you put towards self funding your care.
When you fall under the £23,250 limit the local authority assesses you and contributes to the cost of your care. This is where I'm getting confused. At this point do they take the entire value of your income (for example pensions, occupational pensions, benefits) as well charging you their tariff (£1 per £250 you have). So you are not only giving up all of your income you are also paying an additional tariff charge on top? To my rather tired brain would I be right in thinking that this could actually cost you more in losses than if you were a self funder (particularly if somebody is paying topups as well)?
Then when you drop to the lower £14k level, the local authority continues to take all of your income/benefits but they no longer take the tariff.
Maybe I'm being incredibly dim (entirely possible) but in some situations the losses as a self funder would not be far different than if the local authority was involved!?
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By way of hypothetical example:
Self funder: Let's say your income per month from pensions and benefits is £2000. Let's say you are paying £6400 a month in care home fees. Your outgoing will therefore be £4400 a month.
Local authority contributes: When you fall below the upper 23k threshold the local authority takes all of your monthly income of £2000. It also takes its tariff from you which will be approximately £128/mo. A third party is paying top up fees of £3200 a month. The losses are £5328/mo.
Local authority contributes: When you fall below the lower threshold the local authority takes all of your monthly income of £2000 but you are no longer charged a tariff. Third party continues to pay top up fees of 3200 per month. The monthly loss is then £5200.
I feel I'm missing something obvious.
I know that the upper limit is just over £23k in England, so if you are even a few pounds over that you are treated as a self funder. As a self funder you get to keep all of your income and benefits which you put towards self funding your care.
When you fall under the £23,250 limit the local authority assesses you and contributes to the cost of your care. This is where I'm getting confused. At this point do they take the entire value of your income (for example pensions, occupational pensions, benefits) as well charging you their tariff (£1 per £250 you have). So you are not only giving up all of your income you are also paying an additional tariff charge on top? To my rather tired brain would I be right in thinking that this could actually cost you more in losses than if you were a self funder (particularly if somebody is paying topups as well)?
Then when you drop to the lower £14k level, the local authority continues to take all of your income/benefits but they no longer take the tariff.
Maybe I'm being incredibly dim (entirely possible) but in some situations the losses as a self funder would not be far different than if the local authority was involved!?
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By way of hypothetical example:
Self funder: Let's say your income per month from pensions and benefits is £2000. Let's say you are paying £6400 a month in care home fees. Your outgoing will therefore be £4400 a month.
Local authority contributes: When you fall below the upper 23k threshold the local authority takes all of your monthly income of £2000. It also takes its tariff from you which will be approximately £128/mo. A third party is paying top up fees of £3200 a month. The losses are £5328/mo.
Local authority contributes: When you fall below the lower threshold the local authority takes all of your monthly income of £2000 but you are no longer charged a tariff. Third party continues to pay top up fees of 3200 per month. The monthly loss is then £5200.
I feel I'm missing something obvious.