Everything you wanted to know about Donald Trump's designs on the NHS but were afraid to ask

Discussion in 'Dementia-related news and campaigns' started by la lucia, Jun 6, 2019.

  1. AliceA

    AliceA Registered User

    May 27, 2016
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    Thank you, I have passed it on. I remember what it was like before the NHS.
     
  2. MrsV

    MrsV Registered User

    Apr 16, 2018
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  3. MrsV

    MrsV Registered User

    Apr 16, 2018
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    Hi Alice A,

    I lived for 10 years in a country where there is no NHS, you either have medical insurance, or you pay for every aspect of accessing heathcare. i.e. pay around GBP30.00 to see the GP, Pay around GBP150.00 for a consultation with a Specialist. Pay GBP12:00 for your prescription, Pay for bloods tests, scans, dental check-ups, dental treatment. Pay for a visit to A&E; ambulance, medicine, dressings, sedatives, injections, x-rays. The bill when you leave A&E is like a supermarket checkout printout, and you have to pay before you leave. If you are lucky and work for a large company, and your employer has a good medical aid, which is deducted monthly from your payslip, they cover 2 thirds of it and you pay the rest. If you work for a small company, the medical aid you pay for may cover emergencies or serious operations, but you would be expected to pay everything else yourself. However if you are self employed, or freelance you would have to pay a high premium for minimum cover (no employer subsidy). Or pay everything yourself.

    People fear getting ill, because of the cost, and loss of earnings while ill and unable to work, how do you pay your rents/mortgage, food etc.

    Our NHS is amazing, To not have to worry about the cost is something I NEVER take for granted.
    I know what its like to live in fear of getting ill because of the stress of the cost of it. To lose our NHS and move over to a medical insurance co-pay system would be a horrendous culture shock to everyone. Don't forget medical insurance will not cover you for pre-existing. People would die before being seen by a doctor and turned away from A&E for not having the right kind of cover.
     
  4. AliceA

    AliceA Registered User

    May 27, 2016
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    We had colleagues who were thrilled to join Bupa when it started in UK. They never claimed, however when they reached a certain age the premiums increases so much it was unaffordable. They were angry that they had Paid in so much.
    A fair society spreads the load and pools the risks, and none can foresee the future health needs.
    I remember the NHS coming in and the relief it brought.
    The way it is been changed is insidious, so not really noticed by the public.
    I have just had a cancer treatment, it will be ongoing, I, naturally, agreed that a video could be used, my consultant said they need everything to to ensure funding. I feel doctors need to heal and not get buried in paperwork.
    Thank you again for posting.
     
  5. Palerider

    Palerider Registered User

    Aug 9, 2015
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    My mum as little girl was hit by a car towards the end of WWII. She was very lucky that her parents could afford to pay her medical fees at the time. Many families weren't so fortunate. My gran (mum's mother) I remember told me how everyone welcomed the new NHS and how much of a difference it made.

    My mums uncle wrote my mum a letter while he was serving in Bonn, Germany towards the end of the war, I still have it
     
  6. Palerider

    Palerider Registered User

    Aug 9, 2015
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    Male
    North West
    I did think if there was nay point in commenting. However, after over 25 years in the NHS I can tell you that when things go wrong privately -very wrong those private patients end up in NHS care, because most private hospitals don't have acute facilities or expertise to cope with acute care. My dad paid into private care for many years, when he needed healthcare he ended up turning to the NHS.
     
  7. AliceA

    AliceA Registered User

    May 27, 2016
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    A friend, single with no family chose a private hospital for her hip operation. When we visited our very intelligent friend was talking nonsense. I called a nurse who told me old people get like that. I insisted something was wrong. She was immediately sent to the NHS hospital, her blood sugar was stabilised.
    Although she had booked and paid for a two week stay they refused to take her back. She went into a private nursing home and another friend fought to get her reimbursed. If she had not had friends what would have happened?
    I remember the relief when the Welfare State came into being, dental treatment meant that toothless grins were replaced by identical shining white ones. By that time I had acquired home nursing skills! No going to a doctor unless really dire.
     

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