Hi, @loolabell I found myself in a similar situation to you with my dad. He was self funding and had only been in his care home for 2 weeks when I was contacted by the Manager and told that they couldn't cope with him, due to his behaviour and they wanted him out.
We however, already had a SW on board and she proved to be invaluable, she mediated our meetings, organised for the Senior Mental Health team to look at meds and got the home to agree to keep dad until I could find a more suitable care home for him. The only thing I did have to agree to though was paying for a one to one nurse to be with dad for 8 hours a day until he could be moved.
She provided me with a list of care homes that specialised in looking after challenging dementia patients and I went to visit them all. I made sure I was completely honest with them with regards to my dads needs and behaviour and I could tell straight away which homes would be able to cope and which kind of looked at me aghast at what my dad had been up to. I did though find a perfect care home and I knew they would cope very well with my dad. It took me 3 weeks from being told he had to leave to him moving into his new care home.
Now, regarding the CHC. The SW and first care home manager both thought dad might be eligible for CHC and when I mentioned this to his new care home they agreed and even gave me some paperwork regarding the assessments to look at. The SW and the new care home agreed that dad needed to have a settling in period in the new care home before the initial assessment would take place, so they could gather enough evidence to support our claim. This was for 4 weeks but the SW agreed to fund the FNC element for that period and negotiated the care home fee for me at the SS rate and not the private funded rate.
When the initial assessment took place he was deemed eligible and was referred to the CHC team for full assessment. This had to be carried out within a certain period of time after the referral and it was actually done 2 weeks after the first assessment, present was myself (and my dad but he didn't need to be), the SW, and care home nurse and two people from the CHC. My dad was awarded full funding and he kept that full funding until he unfortunately died suddenly (not dementia related) back in March last year.
I know a lot of people have been through the CHC process and have been turned down and a lot seem to have had far more medical conditions than my dad. But I think the reason my dad was eligible was due to the unpredictability of his behaviour and the fact that he was physically quite fit and mobile, the Dementia had robbed him of his communication and cognitive skills, so he had no understanding of danger, pain or that people where trying to help him which caused him to be aggressive, verbally and physically to staff and other patients. Because of this he scored Severe for Cognition and Behaviour and High for Communication. It also helped that the care home was fully behind me and kept excellent records, they kept what they called ABC charts and these were provided to the CHC as evidence, plus I provided a lot of background information as to how dad's dementia had deteriorated and why he'd had to go into a care home.
So what I'm trying to say, if you think you have a chance of being awarded CHC funding, get a SW involved and make sure the new care home you choose is willing to support you and gather enough evidence for your claim. You can also keep records too so you can work together.
We however, already had a SW on board and she proved to be invaluable, she mediated our meetings, organised for the Senior Mental Health team to look at meds and got the home to agree to keep dad until I could find a more suitable care home for him. The only thing I did have to agree to though was paying for a one to one nurse to be with dad for 8 hours a day until he could be moved.
She provided me with a list of care homes that specialised in looking after challenging dementia patients and I went to visit them all. I made sure I was completely honest with them with regards to my dads needs and behaviour and I could tell straight away which homes would be able to cope and which kind of looked at me aghast at what my dad had been up to. I did though find a perfect care home and I knew they would cope very well with my dad. It took me 3 weeks from being told he had to leave to him moving into his new care home.
Now, regarding the CHC. The SW and first care home manager both thought dad might be eligible for CHC and when I mentioned this to his new care home they agreed and even gave me some paperwork regarding the assessments to look at. The SW and the new care home agreed that dad needed to have a settling in period in the new care home before the initial assessment would take place, so they could gather enough evidence to support our claim. This was for 4 weeks but the SW agreed to fund the FNC element for that period and negotiated the care home fee for me at the SS rate and not the private funded rate.
When the initial assessment took place he was deemed eligible and was referred to the CHC team for full assessment. This had to be carried out within a certain period of time after the referral and it was actually done 2 weeks after the first assessment, present was myself (and my dad but he didn't need to be), the SW, and care home nurse and two people from the CHC. My dad was awarded full funding and he kept that full funding until he unfortunately died suddenly (not dementia related) back in March last year.
I know a lot of people have been through the CHC process and have been turned down and a lot seem to have had far more medical conditions than my dad. But I think the reason my dad was eligible was due to the unpredictability of his behaviour and the fact that he was physically quite fit and mobile, the Dementia had robbed him of his communication and cognitive skills, so he had no understanding of danger, pain or that people where trying to help him which caused him to be aggressive, verbally and physically to staff and other patients. Because of this he scored Severe for Cognition and Behaviour and High for Communication. It also helped that the care home was fully behind me and kept excellent records, they kept what they called ABC charts and these were provided to the CHC as evidence, plus I provided a lot of background information as to how dad's dementia had deteriorated and why he'd had to go into a care home.
So what I'm trying to say, if you think you have a chance of being awarded CHC funding, get a SW involved and make sure the new care home you choose is willing to support you and gather enough evidence for your claim. You can also keep records too so you can work together.