1. Pods

    Pods Registered User

    Sep 1, 2015
    7
    Hello, my mum was diagnosed with vascular dementia not long ago. Since then I have done a lot of research in the hope to find something to help. A friend of mine informed me they once had a meeting with a brain specialist, when her mum had the late stages of althezmiers. He recommended that people with dementia /althezmiers and stroke victims should have lots of broccoli in their diet, as it really helps the brain. I looked into this and read about sprouted broccoli which is has the strongest nutrients and bought my mum some tablets . Before she took the tablets, she was shuffling on her feet, whispering and struggling to get the words out, having accidents (wetting herself) losing her footing, tripping etc.. But after two weeks of taking these tablets (1 a day) but we are now upping to two a day, we have seen vast improvements. She can speak better, walk normally, she hasn't had any trips or falls and is following the conversation and functioning better. I really honestly feel these tablets have helped and I wanted to let people know, to see if they can help your loved ones too. I'm hoping that they will continue to help my mum and slow the progression. X
     
  2. Beate

    Beate Registered User

    May 21, 2014
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    Look, I like broccoli. And like any vegetable, they are good for you. As for their dementia-fighting properties, I've never heard that before. Google research talks about cancer, not dementia. If it was true, we'd all be eating it morning, noon and night! I'd be very careful when it comes to so-called superfoods. Broccoli won't do you any harm but like with any vitamin, it's much better to eat it in fresh form than in tablet form: http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com...ire-the-whole-food-not-supplements-says-study
    If it helps your Mum, that's great but I am not rushing out buying expensive tablets over the Internet on the off-chance it might do some good.
     
  3. Pods

    Pods Registered User

    Sep 1, 2015
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    #3 Pods, Sep 1, 2015
    Last edited: Sep 1, 2015
    Hi Beate it has really helped my mum so I wanted to spread the word, as it may help others. The tablets I bought were not too expensive as I got them online, under £14 for 120 tablets. As I said in my post my friend was told of this from a brain specialist from London, it wasn't off the net. I just looked into sprouted broccoli on the net for more nutrients . I agree that eating the vegetable is just as good but unfortunately my mum wasn't able to and this was the best for her. I hope my post hasn't caused you any distress, I just wanted to share my experience in the hope it can help others.
     
  4. sistermillicent

    sistermillicent Registered User

    Jan 30, 2009
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    I think this is a lot of misleading nonsense.
     
  5. Pods

    Pods Registered User

    Sep 1, 2015
    7
    Like I said, it has helped my mum in leaps and bounds and I wanted to share this. I'm not endorsing a brand or anything, I'm just informing people of what has helped my mum in our personal opinion, as we have seen the change in our mum through our own eyes. Even my mum thanked me for getting them for her, something that she couldn't even do before. So for us, we are sticking with it.
     
  6. Sue J

    Sue J Registered User

    Dec 9, 2009
    8,035
    Thank you for sharing this and am pleased this is helping your Mum, Pods. I am happy to try anything to relieve my symptoms and am very in tune with what helps and what hinders me so it will be good to see if it makes any difference. Buying, cooking fresh veg is not always easy for me anymore so this may well help.:)
     
  7. Katrine

    Katrine Registered User

    Jan 20, 2011
    2,839
    England
    Hi Pods, this is a very friendly supportive forum. New members usually post questions and comments. When a new member jumps in with something that might be interpreted as a 'Daily M*** cure' then occasionally the responses can be a bit tetchy. I am sure you can understand why - the causes of dementia are various and the effects of both prescribed medication and dietary adjustments vary hugely from person to person.
    If only a health supplement could offer dramatic improvements to every person with dementia.

    That said, many people have found benefit from coconut oil. It won't do any harm, and may do good. Anything that improves brain function is to be welcomed. You have been giving your mum tablets that should increase her iron levels. If she was anaemic then she will probably be more alert if her brain and other organs are getting better oxygenation from increased red blood cell efficiency.

    A warning I would offer, though, concerns Vitamin K, which your tablets contain, as do most dark green leafy vegetables or tablets made from them. Vitamin K is used by the liver to enable blood to form clots in the event of an injury. Many elderly people are prescribed Warfarin to thin their blood and reduce the risk of harmful blood clots. The rule is that if someone takes Warfarin they should not make a sudden change to the Vitamin K levels in their diet.

    I would recommend that you check with your mum's GP to be sure that it is OK to continue with these tablets at the dosage that you are currently offering her. I hope that it is OK, and that she continues to enjoy the benefits of her current health improvement.
     
  8. Pods

    Pods Registered User

    Sep 1, 2015
    7
    Thank you Sue. I will pray that this will help you also. I think a lot can be said for nutrients alongside medication. x
     
  9. Sue J

    Sue J Registered User

    Dec 9, 2009
    8,035
    Thank you:)
     
  10. Gigglemore

    Gigglemore Registered User

    Oct 18, 2013
    526
    British Isles
    My Mum ate fresh fruit & veg from my garden for many years and although I like to think they were good for her physical health (as well as tasting good) they certainly didn't stop her getting dementia. She ate loads of fresh broccoli, as I love it and it grows well in my garden.

    So if someone has a poor diet I'm sure including more broccoli would help, but unless Pods' mum had a vitamin deficiency which tests hadn't picked up I think the fantastic results found after just 2 weeks of tablets might be most unusual. Perhaps Katrine's suggestion that she had an iron deficiency is the answer to the sudden improvement.

    I only wish broccoli was a miracle cure for vascular dementia - it would save the country a fortune and save so many hearts from being broken.
     
  11. Lawson58

    Lawson58 Registered User

    And Katrine is right on the mark about people who are on warfarin and their need to be careful about their diet. A few years ago, many foods were prohibited for those people but now they are able to eat small quantities provided they are careful.

    All sorts of things can upset the warfarin dose eg. OH has recently been on antibiotics for a chest infection and his INR has been abnormally erratic. I would be most reluctant to feed him large quantities of any of those foods such as broccoli, spinach etc as it would be increasing the risks of complications with his heart disease.

    So please be cautious when undertaking extreme diets. It may work, it may not but we need to be aware that other factors are involved in caring for people with multiple health issues.
     
  12. Kevinl

    Kevinl Registered User

    Aug 24, 2013
    4,776
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    #12 Kevinl, Sep 2, 2015
    Last edited: Sep 2, 2015
    Why not just buy some from the supermarket and save the £14 for the tablets? As said fresh fruit and veg are good for us all, AZ, carers, just everyone so why buy tablets?
    K
     
  13. AndreaP

    AndreaP Registered User

    Pods, I appreciate your suggestion and if it doesn't affect blood clotting adversely see no harm in giving it a try. So many sufferers wax and wane in their symptoms. My mother is much worse when she is anxious. Is it her heightened blood pressure? Too much Adrenaline? Too much Cortisol in her system?

    When I'm stressed my memory is definitely affected. When I was admitted to hospital to give birth once I couldn't remember my phone number :confused:

    I think the skepticism expressed here is due to the knowledge of how dementia affects the brain and how the damage caused is irreversible. So it seems unlikely that any food could have a profound effect on mental function unless the body is severely under nourished. Anecdotal evidence is always treated with skepticism too but I think if it's harmless it's worth trying. There is so much about the body medical science is yet to understand so who knows for sure.

    Not so long ago people scoffed at the idea that peptic ulcers might be caused by bacteria.
    Now it's medically proven. Who knew?
     
  14. LYN T

    LYN T Registered User

    Aug 30, 2012
    6,962
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    #14 LYN T, Sep 2, 2015
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    Pods, please exercise some caution when buying tablets on line;who knows what is in them? If you are convinced these are good for your Mum please get them at a Pharmacy-you will also get free advice about how they will react with other meds your Mum may be taking.
     
  15. Owly

    Owly Registered User

    Jun 6, 2011
    538
    Thank you Pods for suggesting something that may be helpful. There's a huge amount of research being done but most of it never gets into "a tablet" and so it's buried. I look on sites like Greenmedinfo which is all based on scientific research that is ahead of the actual 'cure' being available.

    Mojo started a very good thread about vascular dementia -

    http://forum.alzheimers.org.uk/show...ia-VaD-recently-diagnosed-no-treatment-no-way

    Broccoli is a goitrogen, so eating a lot of it might slow the thyroid, with effects that can be similar to early dementia. I wonder if the tablets might have the same effect?

    It's really great that your Mum has improved since starting the tablets. If that suggestion helped just one other sufferer and their family, you've done a good thing telling us about it.
     
  16. Grannie G

    Grannie G Volunteer Moderator

    Apr 3, 2006
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    #16 Grannie G, Sep 2, 2015
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    I don`t blame anyone for trying to find a solution to ease the symptoms of dementia.

    I remember when Dhiren was in the early stages and oily fish , Gingko Biloba and Vitamin B12 were said to help. We bought these items wholesale.

    Who can blame us for trying.
     
  17. Grey Lad

    Grey Lad Registered User

    Sep 12, 2014
    5,736
    North East Lincs
    Thanks Pods for this post. You have just reminded me that sprouted seeds are so nutritious. Only yesterday i was thinking about what I could grow at this time of year. Now you have helped me. Thanks so much.

    We use coconut oil for roast potatoes. I know the evidence is anecdotal: so what they taste good. We will now sprout broccoli seeds as we know they will be nutritious. We never know if any of this it might just help. Doing something that might help always makes a difference to how you feel.
     
  18. Owly

    Owly Registered User

    Jun 6, 2011
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  19. Grey Lad

    Grey Lad Registered User

    Sep 12, 2014
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    #19 Grey Lad, Sep 2, 2015
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  20. woodbrooklabs

    woodbrooklabs Registered User

    Aug 17, 2015
    45
    Pods, so pleased that the tabs seem to be helping your mum. Whether there is science to support it or not, you are seeing an improvement in your mums health which can only be a good thing and that's all that matters. I think we would try to help our loved ones in any way possible.
     

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