1. Tender Face

    Tender Face Account Closed

    Mar 14, 2006
    5,379
    NW England
    One to either watch or avoid?

    'How the human memory functions', featuring a man with early onset Alzheimers ........

    Sorry, this may well belong in the Tea Room but wanted to give a 'heads up' to as many as can catch it - if indeed they wish to ...

    Love, Karen, x
     
  2. connie

    connie Registered User

    Mar 7, 2004
    9,519
    Frinton-on-Sea
    Many thanks Karen. Vaguely remember someone else flagging this up, but I had forgotten.

    In my book 'one to watch' as it features "early onset dementia". so dear to my heart, with my Lionel being so young. (Well he was when he was diagnosed!!).

    Anyway I digress. Can do no wrong to be featured here.
     
  3. Brucie

    Brucie Registered User

    Jan 31, 2004
    12,413
    near London
    Thanks Karen, I'd missed the listing for this one and will certainly watch it.
     
  4. CraigC

    CraigC Registered User

    Mar 21, 2003
    6,630
    London
  5. DuskStar

    DuskStar Registered User

    Mar 22, 2008
    22
    I'll watch this now. Looks really good.
     
  6. Tender Face

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    Mar 14, 2006
    5,379
    NW England
    Well, I wish I'd taped it - a lot to take in ....... the bit about parts of the brain being 'overworked' when we are told to 'exercise' it?????? :confused: Autobiographical memory compared to 'learnt memory' .......??? Scientific evidence of subduing memory but not yet how to stimulate it?

    Fascinating ...... but most uplifting moment for me was 'John' (diagnosed at 53) ... saying 'Forget it!' (no irony there then!!!!) 'Life is for living'!!!!! Hurrah that man!!!!!! :) So what he couldn't sort the breakfast plates out? I thought it gave messages of huge, huge dignity ......:) Fantastic all those that took part ......

    Karen, x
     
  7. DuskStar

    DuskStar Registered User

    Mar 22, 2008
    22
    I think you'll be able to watch it again through BBC's iPlayer if you wanted to.

    I thought it was pretty good :)
     
  8. Grannie G

    Grannie G Volunteer Moderator

    Apr 3, 2006
    69,567
    Kent
    We watched it together.

    There was no way I could have drawn the diagram from memory. Should I be concerned?

    When `John` was trying to find the plates;
    S `He has the same trouble as you.`
    D `What are you talking about?`
    S `Look. He is opening every cupboard to find the plates. That`s what you do.`
    D `When have I ever asked for help? Do I ever say I can`t find anything? He has Alzheimers. My Alzheimers has gone now.`

    [Shut up Sylvia.:eek:]
     
  9. connie

    connie Registered User

    Mar 7, 2004
    9,519
    Frinton-on-Sea
    Funny how we want to identify.

    After a while you realise you cannot.
    I used to think like that when I looked at Lionel, trying to learn a new piece of poetry every day, then saying to me.......
    "Don't worry, life is good..........today is as good as it is ever going to get......enjoy"

    Now, I cannot even try to identify 'back then', as I look at the man he has become.



    Incidently, Lionel at his very best could never do the drawings!!!
     
  10. DuskStar

    DuskStar Registered User

    Mar 22, 2008
    22
    I'm 20 (so young in terms of 'memory'), and I couldnt have drawn that from memory! It was far too complicated!
     
  11. Tender Face

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    Mar 14, 2006
    5,379
    NW England
    One thing that puzzles me and have been reflecting on more again since the programme tonight - what is the difference between 'amnesia' and dementia?

    I know I could probably just 'google it' and try to find out for myself ....... but I would be interested in other peoples' thoughts ..... if I thought my mum had 'amnesia with a dash of depression' I could still live completely in denial? Whereas with dementia it is irreversible and no denying? :confused:

    Love Karen, x
     
  12. Grannie G

    Grannie G Volunteer Moderator

    Apr 3, 2006
    69,567
    Kent
    #12 Grannie G, Mar 25, 2008
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2008
    Amnesia is memory loss. Dementia is memory loss plus loss of cognitive function plus loss of insight.

    I think with Amnesia, the physical function of the body remains unaffected, but dementia affects the total physique. IMO
     
  13. CraigC

    CraigC Registered User

    Mar 21, 2003
    6,630
    London
  14. DuskStar

    DuskStar Registered User

    Mar 22, 2008
    22
    Thanks fot the link, I was about to go look for it myself on there :)
     
  15. jenniferpa

    jenniferpa Volunteer Moderator

    Jun 27, 2006
    39,439
    Karen, initially after my mother strokes the only thing they would say for sure was short-term memory loss aka anterior retrograde amnesia. This seemed quite positive because if that the only deficiet it is possible for some people to "work around" it - you can put a calendar on a door and they will know what it is, they may not know where something is, but they have an idea where it won't be (shoes won't be in the fridge for example). It's the loss of congnitive function and insigt as
     
  16. jenniferpa

    jenniferpa Volunteer Moderator

    Jun 27, 2006
    39,439
    Karen, initially after my mother strokes the only thing they would say for sure was short-term memory loss aka anterior retrograde amnesia. This seemed quite positive because if that the only deficeit it is possible for some people to "work around" it - you can put a calendar on a door and they will know what it is, they may not know where something is, but they have an idea where it won't be (shoes won't be in the fridge for example). It's the loss of congnitive function and insight as Sylvia says that makes the difference.
     
  17. KenC

    KenC Registered User

    Mar 24, 2006
    913
    Co Durham
    Hi all,

    I have known John for about two years, and he is always the same, as are many like him who have this illness. Like John and many others, we decided early on that we were not giving into this illness, but in our own little way we were going to fight it, while getting on with Life while we can.
    John is a quiet man who does not say much, but what he does say is powerful enough.

    Regards
    Ken
     
  18. annmitt

    annmitt Registered User

    Mar 20, 2008
    19
    Coventry
    Thanks for the link Craig, will watch that tomorrow. Anna x
     
  19. Brucie

    Brucie Registered User

    Jan 31, 2004
    12,413
    near London
    Excellent programme, so, many thanks Karen!

    Seeing John in the kitchen brought back bitter-sweet memories of a time long ago [and it begins to feel like a galaxy far, far away] when Jan would be the same in the kitchen, and almost any room in the house.
     
  20. Margarita

    Margarita Registered User

    Feb 17, 2006
    10,824
    london
    I got eMac , so it keep stopping staring :rolleyes:. I am wondering if Jennifer has any tip to know what to do to get it to work could Jennifer PM me please with them , as I know she has Apple Mac thanks .
     

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