Hi All Seems like ages since I last posted... Dad went into care in November, initially for respite but it then became totally obvious that it would be permanent. Dad initially responded well but became more & more violent towards the staff, kicking & punching them when they tried to give him medication or get him to wash/shave etc... Anyway, on the night of the 6th December, Dad was sectioned after attacking the care home staff (bit the top off the finger off one of them!) to the local care unit. He's gone downhill very quickly - especially as they've been using sedatives to combat the violence. He's now not able to walk unaided and he's losing weight fast - they're worried about his fluid intake and the eating. I spoke today to the staff nurse and she tells me that they've now removed the sectioning order but that he's being kept in the hospital as an "involuntary patient"? They're trying to get him transferred to a more local hospital so that Mum can get to visit him easier but this may take time due to the bed issue. They're pretty certain that he won't be coming out of hospital due to his deterioration. What happens now with regards to care? Mum has just filled in all the assessment forms and was braced for some very bad news with regards to payment for care etc...What does "involuntary patient" mean? Can he be discharged without our consent? Sorry if this sounds a bit mercenary - but Mum's got enough on her plate with worrying about Dad, let alone worrying about future care... Thanks everyone!!!