I am a bit confused by the criteria for moving someone into a CH etc. so can someone help me to unravel?
Reading posts, some seem to have been able to make that decision on the behalf of a relative (with or without their permission!) and others talk of them needing to be sectioned, to be moved against their will.
M_I_L has adamantly refused to go into a home and, although we have financial POA, we do not have care. Far from that, we have it in writing that she does not want to be moved. Recently she refused to be taken to hospital when her GP wanted her admitted. All the services involved seem to believe that it takes another agency to overturn this decision - SS wait for GP, GP waits for SS, SS say m-i-l wishes must be respected and we we have no voice but are expected to be there when she needs help.
Her condition has worsened and (only the other day I said we longed for the crisis) she has just been admitted to hospital as an emergency. At this stage I have no idea what the long term will be, or even if she will ever leave hospital, but the doctor suggested that if she recovers enough she may at some point be discharged to a nursing home. At first that was a relief, but now the worry creeps in.
If this happens and she is taken to an NH (which almost certainly won't be the place we had hoped for had she agreed to move voluntarily) can she discharge herself and go home again? Mobility issues mean that physically she could not get out of the building, let alone home, unaided and she possibly won't even remember her own name and address - but if she recovers enough to state she wishes to go home, will they be able to keep her against her will, even at this late stage?
Do we need to section her? Can we? How does that work? Can SS overturn a hospital decision to discharge her to a care home and let her go back to her own home instead? If it makes any difference, she would be self-funded for a few years at least, so I would doubt SS will ever need to fund her care, but I would guess SS might not realise she is self funded if they are judging by her appearance! I think the only reason they are happy to let her stay at home is that she is too physically frail to cause them much problem; sitting in her chair, refusing food and phoning everybody except them for help
Sorry for the rant, I know others are probably in worse situations and I am afraid I come across as uncaring but I am so confused and frustrated by this, we are all at the end of our tether - the 'help' available seems especially targeted at making an already sad situation as awful as is possible. Some idea of the possible outcomes, or what others did in a similar situation may help, so that at least we can prepare.
Reading posts, some seem to have been able to make that decision on the behalf of a relative (with or without their permission!) and others talk of them needing to be sectioned, to be moved against their will.
M_I_L has adamantly refused to go into a home and, although we have financial POA, we do not have care. Far from that, we have it in writing that she does not want to be moved. Recently she refused to be taken to hospital when her GP wanted her admitted. All the services involved seem to believe that it takes another agency to overturn this decision - SS wait for GP, GP waits for SS, SS say m-i-l wishes must be respected and we we have no voice but are expected to be there when she needs help.
Her condition has worsened and (only the other day I said we longed for the crisis) she has just been admitted to hospital as an emergency. At this stage I have no idea what the long term will be, or even if she will ever leave hospital, but the doctor suggested that if she recovers enough she may at some point be discharged to a nursing home. At first that was a relief, but now the worry creeps in.
If this happens and she is taken to an NH (which almost certainly won't be the place we had hoped for had she agreed to move voluntarily) can she discharge herself and go home again? Mobility issues mean that physically she could not get out of the building, let alone home, unaided and she possibly won't even remember her own name and address - but if she recovers enough to state she wishes to go home, will they be able to keep her against her will, even at this late stage?
Do we need to section her? Can we? How does that work? Can SS overturn a hospital decision to discharge her to a care home and let her go back to her own home instead? If it makes any difference, she would be self-funded for a few years at least, so I would doubt SS will ever need to fund her care, but I would guess SS might not realise she is self funded if they are judging by her appearance! I think the only reason they are happy to let her stay at home is that she is too physically frail to cause them much problem; sitting in her chair, refusing food and phoning everybody except them for help
Sorry for the rant, I know others are probably in worse situations and I am afraid I come across as uncaring but I am so confused and frustrated by this, we are all at the end of our tether - the 'help' available seems especially targeted at making an already sad situation as awful as is possible. Some idea of the possible outcomes, or what others did in a similar situation may help, so that at least we can prepare.