No it doesn't, and anyway, what they were, whether nice or nasty - that is irrelevant now. We can only take them as we see them. Do I detect a hint of sarcasm there Nat? It's the first really daft thing you have said on TP anyhow. [hope that doesn't offend ] No, I am in no way a saint, but perhaps I am just lucky in the home that Jan is in, perhaps the people there are 'better'... I don't really think so. I simply treat the other residents as I hope that others will treat Jan, with care. It doesn't take a lot of effort, and lest people think I have had an easier road than most, that is probably the opposite of the case. Not my place, Nat. We all do what we can with what we can and live with that. I was probably at your point of view 4-5 years ago. Times and things change. They have to.