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Recommended thread Compassionate Communication with the Memory Impaired

Jo1958

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Mar 31, 2010
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Sylvia, thank you
We all need reminding of these wise words, I try to follow the ideas and since I read them a couple of years ago life has got easier as I've relaxed into caring. So difficult to do at the beginning and very hard to keep up every day nevertheless well worth striving for.
With kind regards from Jo
 

happisoo

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Dec 10, 2009
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north wales
WOW! I just want to say a miliion thanks for the posting from Grannie about the Compassionate Communication. I have been involved in many ways over the years in therapies, non-violent communication and have tried very hard to be a caring, patient tolerant and forgiving. Nevertheless (i'm learning) living with my mum while she has dementia is some tough challenge.!!! I seem to have lost my patience completely...I do reason, I do explain why her husband is no longer here. I find it so hard to be humourous, distracting creative and fun after two years. My mum shadows me whenever i'm in the house and I am unable to to be friendly all the time.
Any way those words brought tears to my eyes and made me take a deep breth and find some eway of thinking about looking after her in a different way. I hope I can live up to the challenge.
x
 

Issy

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Nov 22, 2010
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Sylvia Simply thankyou
I will share this most helpful advice with all family friends and professionals who may not have seen it.
Issy
 

Christin

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Jun 29, 2009
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Somerset
Thanks Sylvia for reposting this. We saw it the last time it was posted and it was really useful. It helped us understand so much about walking away and not confronting behaviour. I feel sure it will help so many others.

We should have reread it at 3 am :)
 

JPG1

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Jul 16, 2008
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It can only be pure coincidence that Grannie G has chosen to start this thread today.

So much of the content of the Compassionate Communication with the Memory Impaired pages are contained within the SPECAL book that has received so much negative comment.

If only you could have opened your minds to the SPECAL book, it would have been of enormous benefit to all of those who have suddenly welcomed the very same messages. The suggestions and advice contained within SPECAL.

I am dumbfounded. I am absolutely gobsmacked. :confused::eek::mad:

Who is pulling the strings here, and why?

The book is cheap, it is easily readable, it is portable, it is available from your local library. (No, I have no connection with it, other than as someone who has read it, which is more than can be said, it seems, for some people who have posted so negatively about it - without even having bothered to read it.)

But, suddenly the same 'message and advice' is deemed 'acceptable. Why? Please explain to a very :confused: person.

The American stuff via Liz Ayres (a volunteer with the US Alzheimer's Association) is absolutely exactly the same as the UK stuff contained within SPECAL.

If you open your mind, you open your heart. Regardless of the origin of the message.
 

JPG1

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sleepless

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Feb 19, 2010
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The Sweet North
I read Sylvia's post, copied 'Compassinate Communication etc.' to a 'document' and have put it on my desktop so that I can instantly refer to it anytime.
I read 'Contented Dementia' but it didn't leave me with the same 'feeling' as C.C. etc. It could be that having to take the 'basics' from the book isn't as easy for some (eg.me) as it is for others.
I have not felt any desire to re-read 'Contented Dementia.'

Maybe it's about how we take information in.

There's something about that genre of book that I have never been comfortable with, but that's a personal thing.

They're out there, for folk to decide for themselves I suppose.
 

parrypamela

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Jul 23, 2009
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Thank you

Thank you so much for printing this. It has made so much sense of alot of things and means so much. I just hope and pray I have the patience to do all the 'do's' as I truly know they are the right ones.

Its so upsetting to see my mum like this and I just wish it was something you could treat/cure with medicine. I want my mum back:(
 

Izzy

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I have not felt any desire to re-read 'Contented Dementia.'

Maybe it's about how we take information in.

There's something about that genre of book that I have never been comfortable with, but that's a personal thing.

They're out there, for folk to decide for themselves I suppose.
I got half way through Contented Dementia and couldn't face any more.
 

Contrary Mary

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Jun 11, 2010
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So well written, not only for the person with memory impairment but also for the carer.
Perhaps this is why "Contented Dementia" left me cold as I could not find anything to help me as a carer. I hope the occasional re-read of Compassionate Communication" will help me be more patient and understanding
 
I got half way through Contented Dementia and couldn't face any more.
Me too - I couldn't imagine the complicated structures of special themed conversations having any relevance in my situation, where Mother doesn't live in a closed community but meets friends and neighbours in the street etc, who couldn't possibly all be "on board".

The straightforward guidelines of "Compassionate Communication" seem a much more realistic approach: for us core carers, and to share with anyone with whom our dementia sufferer has frequent interactions. In encounters with other people we can give a lead in conversation, following the guidelines, and hope that other people will pick up and follow our example. But unless someone is in a care home staffed by SPECAL experts, where every visitor is also SPECAL trained (or they never have any visitors), then I couldn't see the prescriptive SPECAL approach as workable. Let alone AS's concerns about freedom of decisions etc.

Pam
 
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Grannie G

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Apr 3, 2006
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I am going to print it out and take it to Dhiren`s Home.

I doubt they need any lessons in compassionate communication but it`s good to have a piece of writing to refer to.
 

Helen33

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Jul 20, 2008
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I am going to print it out and take it to Dhiren`s Home.
That's a good idea Sylvia:) I think caring is so demanding often physically as well as psychologically and just a short reminder from time to time can only be good.

I think we often get so engrossed in the unpredictability and seriousness of these conditions that it can help to see something CLEARLY. There is not much that is CLEAR about dementia.

It could also help to have a copy in our handbags at all times and then when a friend, family member, sitter, nurse, SW, GP or other treats our 'cared for' inappropriately then we could hand them a copy which may help them too.

Love
 

maryw

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Nov 16, 2008
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Surrey
Perhaps this is why "Contented Dementia" left me cold as I could not find anything to help me as a carer. I hope the occasional re-read of Compassionate Communication" will help me be more patient and understanding
That is an interesting point of view, we are all different.

Personally, I had not found TP at the time of my Mum's cognitive decline but had found Contented Dementia and it DID give me a way of dealing with it. Suddenly I understood it was the illness and not Mum, that I needed to have lots of patience, that I needed to almost pre-empt answers to questions so she would not feel stupid, I needed to focus on the past more, needed to build her self-esteem, needed to give her security by being calm and giving her day security of structure, security of using same words and sentences over again etc. etc. In this way I felt positive, that I was dealing with it in the best way that I knew how to at that time.

Of course books don't cover everything, and I did read the books written for carers as well, so I picked up tips on how to handle the situation from there.

Yes, I agree with Grannie G and I do think "Compassionate Communication" is brilliant, but I, and my Mum's carers, and, of course, my Mum, did get help from "Contented Dementia".
 

sistermillicent

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Jan 30, 2009
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I don't mean this to be frivolous but damn, I have a whole lot of reading up to do now, this thread is really interesting and I have to get hold of all these specal and contented dementia publications.

We (dad and I looking after mum) sort of found our own way to compassionate communication, and once we did life became easier for us all because mum was a lot less agitated most of the time.

I am not sure that we would ever have been prepared to follow anything without first trying what we thought was right at the time. However, I would have found the cc document to have been very useful if it had been one of the AS fact sheets, I used and printed off many of these and in particular one on managing challening behaviour, or aggressive behaviour, I forget which.

Thanks for posting cc, Sylvia

Pippa