COPForms

[Pharoah 41]

Hi
I’m having to fill in a COP1c form with regard to applying to become a deputy. Does anyone know why this has to be done if you are already an attorney?

 

[nitram]

Why have you been asked , have you applied to use your LPA to sell a property or make any other large decision?

 

[Pharoah 41]

I’ve been asked to make a retrospective application for a stair lift I installed for mum. Didn’t realise I had to get COP permission

 

[Veritas]

I’ve been asked to make a retrospective application for a stair lift I installed for mum. Didn’t realise I had to get COP permission

That’s a bit strange. Are there restrictions in the LPA you have?

I ask because I checked with the OPG about a major decision for my PWD who has lost capacity to manage their financial affairs. I was told I didn’t need OPG authorisation because there are no restrictions in the LPA and the attorneys are able to act jointly or severally. Has your PWD lost capacity?

 

[nitram]

I’ve been asked to make a retrospective application for a stair lift I installed for mum. Didn’t realise I had to get COP permission

They probably want assurance that she needs the lift.
How did they know it was being installed?

 

[Pharoah 41]

That’s a bit strange. Are there restrictions in the LPA you have?

I ask because I checked with the OPG about a major decision for my PWD who has lost capacity to manage their financial affairs. I was told I didn’t need OPG authorisation because there are no restrictions in the LPA and the attorneys are able to act jointly or severally. Has your PWD lost capacity?

 

[Pharoah 41]

A recent capacity test in November proved that in the realms of probability she lost capacity to make financial decisions in April.

 

[nitram]

How did the OPG know about the stair lift?
Is the LPA registered with the OPG?

 

[Veritas]

A recent capacity test in November proved that in the realms of probability she lost capacity to make financial decisions in April.

I echo Nitram’s questions.

The only things I can think of is that the LPA was set up so that it could only be used when she had lost capacity, and/or that it hadn’t been registered when it was used. Still odd though - how did the OPG know that this stair lift was installed? Is there another interested party who has raised the matter with the OPG?

 

[Jaded'n'faded]

Hi
I’m having to fill in a COP1c form with regard to applying to become a deputy. Does anyone know why this has to be done if you are already an attorney?

If you are already an attorney, why would you need to apply to become a deputy?

Has someone spoken to the OPG with regard to misuse of funds and they are investigating? (I fail to see how installing a stair lift could be construed as anything other than useful to your mum! Unless she doesn't need it and you've installed it just to carry the laundry upstairs...?)

 

[nitram]

f you are already an attorney, why would you need to apply to become a deputy?

The form could be a multi use form, entitled something or other and used for something else that requires the same info.

 

[Pharoah 41]

If you are already an attorney, why would you need to apply to become a deputy?

Has someone spoken to the OPG with regard to misuse of funds and they are investigating? (I fail to see how installing a stair lift could be construed as anything other than useful to your mum! Unless she doesn't need it and you've installed it just to carry the laundry upstairs...?)

 

[Pharoah 41]

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I echo Nitram’s questions.

The only things I can think of is that the LPA was set up so that it could only be used when she had lost capacity, and/or that it hadn’t been registered when it was used. Still odd though - how did the OPG know that this stair lift was installed? Is there another interested party who has raised the matter with the OPG?

🤣 It is part of an investigation from a family member so maybe it has something to do with that and the OPG are just covering their backs.
Thank you all, your responses and support have made me feel a lot more comfortable going forward. I’ll let you know how I get on.
🤞🏻

 

[nitram]

🤭

🤣 It is part of an investigation from a family member so maybe it has something to do with that and the OPG are just covering their backs.
Thank you all, your responses and support have made me feel a lot more comfortable going forward. I’ll let you know how I get on.
🤞🏻

Although the attorney is free to choose how to spend money in donor's best interests if a complaint is made and it's not obvious that an expenditure is in the donor's interest, eg care fees, the OPG have to check.
Not studied the form, a statement for an OT or physio could be useful.

 

[Veritas]

🤭

🤣 It is part of an investigation from a family member so maybe it has something to do with that and the OPG are just covering their backs.
Thank you all, your responses and support have made me feel a lot more comfortable going forward. I’ll let you know how I get on.
🤞🏻

Would be good to hear how this plays out. Why anyone would object to the installation of a stair lift is rather beyond me.