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If the person is not insured for enough, who do you contact to help out with the money? is it the LA? DSS? or what? To claim for funeral expenses if you cant afford the funeral?
If the person is not insured for enough, who do you contact to help out with the money? is it the LA? DSS? or what? To claim for funeral expenses if you cant afford the funeral?
who to contact for financial help
If the person is not insured for enough, who do you contact to help out with the money? is it the LA? DSS? or what? To claim for funeral expenses if you cant afford the funeral?
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this really is not fair on you
This is not fair on you, you did everything right on your part, I think its their negligence and they are making you suffer now.
pretty poor service
The choice is yours. Hope this helped. The social worker I had backed down to me in the end about my dad, but only cause I guess I am a very strong person. When my dad was sick she wanted to just send him home again with another care package as before, the previous one did not work.
I had lots of help and advice from people on here as well which helped. In fact the people on here cared more about what was going on with my dad then my own relatives to be honest. They always all sat back and let me get on with it all basically.
I told the SW I could not cope and dug my heals in at her. I said if you send him home and anything else happens I will hold you personally responsible and my Brother Inlaw works for a top lawyers in London so I will have no problem getting legal representation on this. Cause you are duty bound to him and his care. I will have you for neglect etc. But he only got into that home because of that stuff I said.
None of dads family showed up for the meetings, it was just me fighting alone, and the doctor agreed with me and nurse to. and when my husband could get time off work he came to support me. Even when uncle did come to one meeting he sat their like a stuffed toy anyway.
But this is just an example of how strong you have to be sometimes regardless of how you are feeling. Not everyone can be like this I agree. But sometimes when you get **** in life, you suddenly think, thats it, enough is enough. I am not putting up with this **** anymore and fob offs from services.
I think the social worker should be struck off if thats how she is treating people. You needed her help not her bullying. If you want to persue this I wonder if you could contact her office where she works and put in a complaint about her to her manager and say that you will persue this if nothing gets resolved that you dont want others to suffer like you did. Or you could just move on now and forget about it all.
The choice is yours. Hope this helped. The social worker I had backed down to me in the end about my dad, but only cause I guess I am a very strong person. When my dad was sick she wanted to just send him home again with another care package as before, the previous one did not work.
I had lots of help and advice from people on here as well which helped. In fact the people on here cared more about what was going on with my dad then my own relatives to be honest. They always all sat back and let me get on with it all basically.
I told the SW I could not cope and dug my heals in at her. I said if you send him home and anything else happens I will hold you personally responsible and my Brother Inlaw works for a top lawyers in London so I will have no problem getting legal representation on this. Cause you are duty bound to him and his care. I will have you for neglect etc. But he only got into that home because of that stuff I said.
None of dads family showed up for the meetings, it was just me fighting alone, and the doctor agreed with me and nurse to. and when my husband could get time off work he came to support me. Even when uncle did come to one meeting he sat their like a stuffed toy anyway.
But this is just an example of how strong you have to be sometimes regardless of how you are feeling. Not everyone can be like this I agree. But sometimes when you get **** in life, you suddenly think, thats it, enough is enough. I am not putting up with this **** anymore and fob offs from services.
I understand all your problems
I should write a book, I shall call it IDIOTS, the DWAP, Gas board, TV, Telephone, council tax, all of them. The list is endless.
A solicitor is good,, if you can afford one
But, there are things you can do on your own.
I will post again, when I have sorted out all our stuff XX
Barb X
I should write a book, I shall call it IDIOTS, the DWAP, Gas board, TV, Telephone, council tax, all of them. The list is endless.
A solicitor is good,, if you can afford one
But, there are things you can do on your own.
I will post again, when I have sorted out all our stuff XX
Barb X
what a great ida
I think I have replied before here but my excuse at moment is, I am not well, I think this is a great idea.
hi margaret does this payment also apply with children to
Does this payment also apply with children to that have to bury parents. Can the child get the payments to help with funeral? as it only mentions about partners?
what is the site for the army funeral allowance?
Does anyone know the name of the site for the army funeral allowance, I had this before but I lost the contact details? I just wanted this for future reference really.
Does anyone know the name of the site for the army funeral allowance, I had this before but I lost the contact details? I just wanted this for future reference really.
I googled 'army funeral allowance', and got this:
http://www.dwr.org.uk/dwr.php?id=173&pa=158
"Spouses of deceased army personnel can also claim a pension and a refund of funeral expenses if their husband’s or wife’s death was caused by or hastened by an existing accepted disability."
Also: http://www.modoracle.com/service_allowance/detail.html?id=58
http://www.dwr.org.uk/dwr.php?id=173&pa=158
"Spouses of deceased army personnel can also claim a pension and a refund of funeral expenses if their husband’s or wife’s death was caused by or hastened by an existing accepted disability."
Also: http://www.modoracle.com/service_allowance/detail.html?id=58
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What happens to an EPA if someone dies?
If the Donor dies the EPA automatically comes to an end. The Attorney should send the original EPA and the death certificate to the OPG as soon as possible. The OPG cannot provide advice about how to deal with the Donor’s estate; this is a matter for a solicitor, District Probate Registry or other professional advisor.
There is more information on EPA's in the guide on the Public Guardianship website here:
http://www.publicguardian.gov.uk/docs/epa101-0409.pdf
Kind Regards
Craig
If the Donor dies the EPA automatically comes to an end. The Attorney should send the original EPA and the death certificate to the OPG as soon as possible. The OPG cannot provide advice about how to deal with the Donor’s estate; this is a matter for a solicitor, District Probate Registry or other professional advisor.
There is more information on EPA's in the guide on the Public Guardianship website here:
http://www.publicguardian.gov.uk/docs/epa101-0409.pdf
Kind Regards
Craig
What to do after death
I was EPA with my husband for my father and he lived with us and we looked after him without any help washing etc. My father died last february and my brother who is an executor along with dad's solicitors are handling probate (well the solicitors are as my brother is too busy he says) but my brother had no contact along with my other brother and sister with my father and still does not with us. I found out from the solicitors that the will was changed 7 weeks after my mum's death and 5 weeks after her funeral. It was a shock it now gives my brothers more money. My father had alzheimers at the time and when he moved in with us nearly 4 years ago he had advanced alzheimers. He was in a terrible state after mum died and it is obvious that he was pressured into changing his will. He was on sleeping tablets diazepan, he could not eat and could not keep still. I cannot afford to fight this and the way they bahaved has caused my blood pressure to rise dangerously high and the doctor wants me to calm down. But I do need to know the state of things with probate and would like to know what to ask solicitors (they are the ones that changed dad's will by the way) I need to know what to write as I feel very worried about what else is going on behind my back. Please can anyone help me.
I was EPA with my husband for my father and he lived with us and we looked after him without any help washing etc. My father died last february and my brother who is an executor along with dad's solicitors are handling probate (well the solicitors are as my brother is too busy he says) but my brother had no contact along with my other brother and sister with my father and still does not with us. I found out from the solicitors that the will was changed 7 weeks after my mum's death and 5 weeks after her funeral. It was a shock it now gives my brothers more money. My father had alzheimers at the time and when he moved in with us nearly 4 years ago he had advanced alzheimers. He was in a terrible state after mum died and it is obvious that he was pressured into changing his will. He was on sleeping tablets diazepan, he could not eat and could not keep still. I cannot afford to fight this and the way they bahaved has caused my blood pressure to rise dangerously high and the doctor wants me to calm down. But I do need to know the state of things with probate and would like to know what to ask solicitors (they are the ones that changed dad's will by the way) I need to know what to write as I feel very worried about what else is going on behind my back. Please can anyone help me.
Was the EPA registered?
Hi Gilly,
Firstly
Sorry just to confirm. Are you saying that you dad's will was changed soon after your mother died but after your dad's EPA was registered? The EPA is usually registered as soon as you have reason to believe the person is losing the mental capacity to manage their affairs.
There are people better experienced to answer this, but my impression is that it is difficult to change a will after the EPA has been registered? Can someone confirm this or tell gilly if this may have been possible? I'd hate to give you incorrect information and have no direct experience of an issue like this.
My advice would be to phone the alzheimers help line. They cannot offer detailed legal advice but can give you accurate details on the law and put you in the right direction.
http://www.alzheimers.org.uk/helpline
Kind Regards
Craig
Hi Gilly,
Firstly
Sorry just to confirm. Are you saying that you dad's will was changed soon after your mother died but after your dad's EPA was registered? The EPA is usually registered as soon as you have reason to believe the person is losing the mental capacity to manage their affairs.
There are people better experienced to answer this, but my impression is that it is difficult to change a will after the EPA has been registered? Can someone confirm this or tell gilly if this may have been possible? I'd hate to give you incorrect information and have no direct experience of an issue like this.
My advice would be to phone the alzheimers help line. They cannot offer detailed legal advice but can give you accurate details on the law and put you in the right direction.
http://www.alzheimers.org.uk/helpline
Kind Regards
Craig
I hadn't thought of that, Norman. Sounds like a good idea. I'll see if my sister will go along with it.
Hi knitone,
Coincidently, I've been looking into prepaid funeral plans and am getting things in place. You may find this useful. You need to ask the right question whichever funeral play provider you use:
http://www.which.co.uk/money/insurance/reviews-ns/funeral-plans/the-costs-of-funeral-plans/
http://www.which.co.uk/money/insurance/reviews-ns/funeral-plans/how-secure-are-funeral-plans/
There is a another very important reason to sort out a funeral plan if you have a relative who is self-funded. You sell up the house to pay for care, use up savings, then when the money runs out the Local Authority will help with cost of care. However, they will not help with funeral cost.
Sorting out a prepaid funeral plan early means the money can be used from the savings/house sale - if self-funded it is easier to do this before you approach the local authority and tell them the money is soon to run out.
Hope this helps
Craig
Coincidently, I've been looking into prepaid funeral plans and am getting things in place. You may find this useful. You need to ask the right question whichever funeral play provider you use:
http://www.which.co.uk/money/insurance/reviews-ns/funeral-plans/the-costs-of-funeral-plans/
http://www.which.co.uk/money/insurance/reviews-ns/funeral-plans/how-secure-are-funeral-plans/
There is a another very important reason to sort out a funeral plan if you have a relative who is self-funded. You sell up the house to pay for care, use up savings, then when the money runs out the Local Authority will help with cost of care. However, they will not help with funeral cost.
Sorting out a prepaid funeral plan early means the money can be used from the savings/house sale - if self-funded it is easier to do this before you approach the local authority and tell them the money is soon to run out.
Hope this helps
Craig
You would normally approach the LA before all the money had ran out though - when it was around the 23k mark when it goes on a sliding scale. Although I suppose if it seems likely you will get to that point then it might make sense to pre-pay as it would presumably not be considered as Deprivation of Assets.
I'm pretty sure that I'm safe on this decision, but more than happy to see them in court on this one
It is right that you should approach the LA well before the assets fall below 23K. As always, make sure you get professional advice.
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