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Urgent advice needed-confusion

Linsac

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Aug 14, 2020
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Hi mum has been diagnosed with mild Alzheimer's after being admitted to an acute ward last summer suffering from delirium. She has been living fairly happily alone at home since discharge with 4 carers a day. She is very anxious and forgetful but on the whole has been ok. However, the last week she has become more and more confused. Today she didn't know where she was, who owned the house, panicking about being on her own all night, saying she wanted it to go back to how it was..no amount of reassuring could comfort her. She's not been like this since she was admitted last year.
My immediate thought was a urine infection but she says she is not suffering form any abdominal pain or trouble going to the toilet. Can an infection not have any physical symptoms or is this how Alzheimers can be, up and down so suddenly? I've left a message for the OPMH team to call me back and will be calling the GP first thing. Any advice much appreciated.
 

canary

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Im guessing it is an infection. My OH went through a period of loads of UTIs and he didnt have any of the usual symptoms like lower abdominal pain, or even a temperature - it was just the behaviour that gave it away (in his case he lost mobility). Get the GP to check your mum
 

Weasell

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Oct 21, 2019
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My advice is get someone to see her quickly.
I am thinking INFECTION
Even if it is not infection a good check over is required.
Don’t be fobbed off!
It is a very, very bad time to fall and require hospitalisation at the moment.
 

Weasell

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Tip!
To get a urine sample.
Lift the toilet seat.
Drape cling film over the sides of the toilet bowl.
When you have a well then put the seat back down.

Do not leave the person unsupervised, if they flush the chain you have a problem.
Pray you get no more than a urine sample.

If you have a urine sample waiting for the professionals then it can make life a tiny bit easier.
 

Linsac

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Aug 14, 2020
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Tip!
To get a urine sample.
Lift the toilet seat.
Drape cling film over the sides of the toilet bowl.
When you have a well then put the seat back down.

Do not leave the person unsupervised, if they flush the chain you have a problem.
Pray you get no more than a urine sample.

If you have a urine sample waiting for the professionals then it can make life a tiny bit easier.
Good idea, thank you! I was wondering how I would get one from her.
 

Jane56

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Jan 21, 2021
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Delerium can last for months and recur at odd intervals. Google recurrent delerium to get more info....

She may just be a bit dehydrated for example. I would phone 111 and seek advice.
 

nita

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My mother went into hospital with a very bad water infection and was treated for it there - this was 9 years before she developed Alzheimer's. Her sodium levels fell very low causing her to be confused and forgetful. She returned to normal after this was treated. The doctor at the time seemed uncertain whether she would come back to herself.
 

Jessbow

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a plastic bowl ( V cheap in places like wilco), or an old ice cream container in the bowl works too, AND can be left there whilst you return PWD to their chair

Collecting urine from the clingfilm can be fun...not
 

angelict

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If your using a bowl just remember to sterilise with hot water from a kettle I had this a year ago with my Mum and was told by the 111 doctor then to cling film it until they came out to home visit at the weekend
 

Linsac

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I spoke to her GP this morning, he agrees mostly likely a UTI so has prescribed antibiotics. I have got to drop a sample off today so will be going over armed with a bowl and clingfilm! Mum is furious and doesn't agree that there is anything wrong with her, then in the same breath asking why she is still in this strange house and where are all the others..it's going to be a fun day!
 

Weasell

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Oct 21, 2019
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Wishing you well.
Obviously UTI is most likely.
I am going to speak the unspeakable. The younger members of my family have suffered side effects from their Covid jabs ( both brands) my mother had a chest infection that I have a very slight suspicion my have come from the jab. I realise that it is most likely I am completely wrong, and realise will never know ( because she may have just got one?)
If I was putting on a bet I would think the GP may give you


which can work on chest infections as well, but if all is not well in a few days, then I would request she gets someone to do a few basic checks.
 

lollyc

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Sep 9, 2020
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Or nitrofurantoin

I don't doubt some will have side effects from the vaccine - I think you can often feel unwell after a flu jab.
I wonder if those who are affected are the ones who have not had Covid, even asymptomatically, so have no base immunity? We will never know!
 

Weasell

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Oct 21, 2019
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Or nitrofurantoin

I don't doubt some will have side effects from the vaccine - I think you can often feel unwell after a flu jab.
I wonder if those who are affected are the ones who have not had Covid, even asymptomatically, so have no base immunity? We will never know!
That is an interesting question!
and you are correct! The information I have received has all come from people not previously infected. ( Life’s rich coincidence!)
 

jennifer1967

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Or nitrofurantoin

I don't doubt some will have side effects from the vaccine - I think you can often feel unwell after a flu jab.
I wonder if those who are affected are the ones who have not had Covid, even asymptomatically, so have no base immunity? We will never know!
thats the one i have as allergic to penicillin
 

Linsac

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Aug 14, 2020
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She has been given Nitrofurantoin. She has not had her vaccination yet, still impatiently waiting!

Managed to get the sample easily with a Tupperware container in the pan, thanks for the advice.
 

Weasell

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She has been given Nitrofurantoin. She has not had her vaccination yet, still impatiently waiting!

Managed to get the sample easily with a Tupperware container in the pan, thanks for the advice.
Good guess @jennifer1967 !
Let us know how you get on @Linsac !
( Now where are you? Explain again ?????)
 

Linsac

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Aug 14, 2020
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Hi just following on from this-mum completed the course of antibiotics and the confusion did ease somewhat but now seems to be back with a vengeance. She was apparently verbally aggressive with the carer this afternoon which is very unlike her. Does anyone know how long delirium from an infection can last? I am going to call GP again tomorrow and get another urine test done in case it has not gone but at a loss otherwise as to why she has deteriorated so rapidly?
 

canary

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Check to see whether the infection has actually gone. OH had UTIs, given antibiotics and then when they stopped the infection flared up again,
I think this is the most likely explanation
 

Linsac

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Aug 14, 2020
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Check to see whether the infection has actually gone. OH had UTIs, given antibiotics and then when they stopped the infection flared up again,
I think this is the most likely explanation
Thanks Canary, I kind of hope that is the case as the GP says the only other option is to get her admitted via A&E. Really don't want to be doing that right now!