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Tv licence advice

jelba

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Aug 1, 2012
227
Huddersfield
Go to get a tv licence for mum room end of the month as current one expires from the previous tenant at the care home told we have to do it as care home only got licence for the tv Sunday in the lounge mum got dementia and looked online about a arc licence going to ring them in a week time to sort one out and just wondering about any advice thank you
 

Beate

Registered User
May 21, 2014
12,046
London
Well done, nitram, I was just coming on to say the same thing. It shouldn't have to be the care home resident having to apply for an individual licence, it's their job to sort out.
 

marmarlade

Registered User
Jan 26, 2015
183
when my hubby was in care we had to have a t.v licence for his room as the home one only covered the lounge that they used, T,V licenceing said the home had to apply for it for him.home said they applied for him and was told it was our place to apply for the licence,and so it went on,by the time we had the licence hubby was moved to a dementia nursing home .then we started applying for a refund .so hope you get on better than I did
 

jelba

Registered User
Aug 1, 2012
227
Huddersfield
Going to get a tv licence in my name for my mum probably pay monthly on direct debit got to end of the month before the old license runs out got a POA and been told I can claim the money back for it just got care home to sort tv out for mum as current one is broken and is stuck on itv going to ring tv people up next Monday to sort it out then
 

nitram

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Apr 6, 2011
21,060
North Manchester

Kevinl

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Aug 24, 2013
4,764
Salford
Aren't TV licences free for over 75's?
Yes, my wife will be eligible for one in 10 years time, not everyone on here is in the older age range, only 4 more years before I get my state pension:)
My wife's been in care for 2.5 years and no one's ever mentioned a TV licence, if they did I'd just ask them to take the TV out of her room, she never watches it or spends any time in there other than to sleep. Even when the TV is on in the lounge she can't follow it.
As Nitram says the home can get an ARC licence at £7.50 per room per year so on the whole scale of things that's peanuts against the cost of the room itself, any home that expects some or all or its residents to pay for a TV licence because they can't be "bothered" to apply for an ARC licence sounds a bit strange.
Could someone with AZ be taken to court for not having a TV licence? Is each room in the home registered as a separate address on the TV licencing database? Seems a bit odd to me, is it a home that's part of a group or a privately owned home?
K
 

jaymor

Volunteer Moderator
Jul 14, 2006
13,263
England
My husband was in a nursing home for 4 years and I was never asked to pay for a tv licence either.
 

Soobee

Registered User
Aug 22, 2009
2,732
South
My mum was never asked to pay for a tv licence in her nursing home. However, in her empty house we got loads of threatening letters because the TV licensing authority assumed that someone was watching telly from that address, despite us informing them otherwise.
 

Kevinl

Registered User
Aug 24, 2013
4,764
Salford
When my mother came to live with me I phoned the TV licence people and they transferred her licence to my address, cancelled my licence and gave me a refund to the date she moved in.
When she passed away (in the January) I phoned to get a new licence and they told me I didn't have to get one until the old one expired on her birthday (in the October).
I told them the house was empty and I never got anything in the way of threatening letter from them at all.
K
 

Max68

Registered User
Aug 21, 2018
81
Sussex
Hi all, hope it's ok but I thought I would bump this thread after the news that the BBC is scrapping it's free TV Licences for the Over 75's, yet another disgraceful move for austerity but that's another discussion. Mum is moving into a Specialist Dementia Nursing Home. I think that there is a TV in her room but we have been told we can take her own. She is 83. Anyone know if she will require this ARC Licence or nothing to start with and then she will have to apply if/when the new regulations come in?
 

Dosey

Registered User
Nov 27, 2017
96
Hi Max68
The home will have a tv licence that will cover all the residents TVs. You do not need a licence for individual TVs it the residence that requires a license.
Rose x
 

nitram

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Apr 6, 2011
21,060
North Manchester

Dosey

Registered User
Nov 27, 2017
96
I've never heard of this.
I worked in residential childcare for 23 years. We only needed one licence for the whole building. The 8 rooms all had their own TVs as well as the two communal areas. My husband went into care on 2nd April and I bought him a tv for his room. Nobody mentioned needing a license.
Rose x
 

Sirena

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Feb 27, 2018
2,294
I don't know if my mother needed the licence mentioned in Nitram's link (did it apply even for over 75s?) but it was never mentioned when she moved to the CH and I wasn't asked for the fee.
 

nitram

Registered User
Apr 6, 2011
21,060
North Manchester
It is the home's responsibility to register all residents with a private TV and obtain the licence, free if resident is 75 or over else £7.50 pa

Whether they pass any cost onto the resident is up to them.
 

nitram

Registered User
Apr 6, 2011
21,060
North Manchester
I worked in residential childcare for 23 years. We only needed one licence for the whole building.
Interesting, the conditions for concessionary licences appear to say some children could need a full licence, can a child have a licence?

Your residents qualify if they are:
Retired
They must be 60 years old or over. If they’re in paid work, this must be for no more than 15 hours per week. They can only work for more than 15 hours per week if they’ve had an ARC Concessionary TV Licence since 31 March 2004.

Or disabled
They must have substantially impaired sight, hearing or speech, a mental disorder or be substantially physically disabled by illness, any impairment present from birth or otherwise.

Also I don't know whether all homes for residential children are eligible


Does your accommodation qualify for a concessionary licence?

A care home or care hospital, registered under the Care Standards Act 2000.

An almshouse, established before 1 November 1949.

Or sheltered/supported accommodation

  1. Housed in a building that has been erected or converted for the purposes of occupation by residents that are retired and over 60, or disabled
  2. Forming part of a group of at least four dwellings within a common and exclusive boundary (up to 25% of units in a scheme can be properties purchased under the ‘Right to Buy’ legislation)
  3. Provided or managed by a local authority or a housing association
  4. With a person whose function is to care for the needs of the residents (e.g. a warden) and who either lives on site or works there for at least 30 hours a week, excluding on-call hours.
 

Max68

Registered User
Aug 21, 2018
81
Sussex
Might well ask the home then. Think I read somewhere that it doesn't come in till next year anyway and by then all the outrage might make them think twice and save money on presenters and fat cats salaries instead!!