I'm concerned that people without internet access will not be able to download this app
There has been some problems apparently with iPhones but Apple are supposed to be trying to fix that.
I'm concerned that people without internet access will not be able to download this app and these will be the most vulnerable people in society. Also I don't want it to spread a false sense of security.
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So far no symptoms to report so we don't know how much more info is required once you do start to feel unwell.
I don't understand all the techy bits but it was something to do with it continuing to run in the background. There is also the issue of people forgetting to turn it on which many older people don't really understand. My guess is that it is not as effective as govt. would like us to think.A problem with iOS was (is?) that it auto shut down the app if no handshake was made with another iOS after a certain time interval, bizarrely a handshake with an Android prevented this shutdown.
A problem with Android was that it need at least OS ver 6 to work, don't know if this has been fixed.
To limit the range to 2m Bluetooth has to work at a lower power than any of the standards, it's thought that sometimes this is causing a higher than usual setting to be used causing the battery to flatten quickly.
The initial testing by the army on an RAF base lacked in granularity.
I don't understand all the techy bits but it was something to do with it continuing to run in the background
I suspect that diligent community testing might be more effective , at least it would pick up people who are in the first Stages and not symptomatic yet.Correct, unless an iOS phone had found an Android phone with the app running it switched the app off after a short interval, finding an iOS phone running the app did not lock the app on.
Pisa have come up with a good idea, they have opened the tower with a one way system, visitors are given a fob, if two fobs are less than the socially acceptable distance apart both fobs beep and flash. What happens
with groups from same household I don't know, maybe the household concept does not apply.
I think you're right I think a lot of people don't see this as a crisis,when some of my mums carers said they wouldn't bother to even download the app,I was surprised and thought they may have even not wanted people to know their movements for instance if they are going to see boyfriends that they are not supposed to be seeing as they live in a different houseThe success of any system like this also depends on the actions taken by notified contacts.
It seems to me that since last Monday - when people were encouraged to return to work if possible - that people now take the attitude that the lockdown is over and that everything is back to normal. I see people in groups meeting other groups, 'token effort' 3-feet social distancing, less in supermarkets, and a general lack of concern. It's hard to imagine that these people will take any notice of a text saying 'you have been in contact with someone who has now tested positive so you must self isolate at home for 2 weeks.'
Many people are just managing to go back to work, have arranged childcare or got their kids back in school. Are they really going to go back into lockdown willingly? I think not.
And many young people seem not to care at all.
I would hope so and I hope it's been well planned and not just a case of employing 25,000 tracers as window dressing to make it look like it's a world class systemI suspect that diligent community testing might be more effective , at least it would pick up people who are in the first Stages and not symptomatic yet.
Community testing does seem to have been working very well here. They always want people who have a sniffle, sore throat etc to go and get tested and if a cluster pops up somewhere they will set up a testing site for that area. It is not blanket community testing but as we haven't had much in the way of community transmission, testing is carried out where it is needed . All local hospitals have testing facilities and some medical surgeries can carry out testing if required.I would hope so and I hope it's been well planned and not just a case of employing 25,000 tracers as window dressing to make it look like it's a world class system
That's good, and on another note,I hope that a vaccination might be avilable at the end of the yearCommunity testing does seem to have been working very well here. They always want people who have a sniffle, sore throat etc to go and get tested and if a cluster pops up somewhere they will set up a testing site for that area. It is not blanket community testing but as we haven't had much in the way of community transmission, testing is carried out where it is needed . All local hospitals have testing facilities and some medical surgeries can carry out testing if required.
Successful testing is targeted so that resources are not wasted.