The cap is not any use. It only covers NURSING costs, not anything else.
As for who classes as “in the system”, you can bet by Oct 2023 it’ll be anyone getting any help at all at home or in a home. Anything to reduce the cost to the LA etc.
Social Care Reform
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As for who classes as “in the system”, you can bet by Oct 2023 it’ll be anyone getting any help at all at home or in a home. Anything to reduce the cost to the LA etc.
I don't think receipt of AA in itself would mean anybody is in the care system.
Nor do I think assessment of care needs would mean they are in the system.
Receipt of care as a result should put them in the system.
This leads to the upcoming problem of identifying and registering people self funding in a care home without having been formally assessed by the LA, several self funders do this.
Nor do I think assessment of care needs would mean they are in the system.
Receipt of care as a result should put them in the system.
This leads to the upcoming problem of identifying and registering people self funding in a care home without having been formally assessed by the LA, several self funders do this.
so private company receives £1500 a week from CCG funding for 24/7 EOL nursing care ✅
yet the same company charged £1750 a week 3 years ago for a room for the same person with capacity for respite care (?) to visit family, paid for privately while social care services at PWD home still being paid for … ⚠️
-openness of charging of fees required
-commission rates from bed bureaus disclosed
- breakdown of costs published per PWD & care meeting their needs
it wont ever happen - big companies making huge profits off those dying with dementia a terminal illness !
if all terminal illnesses were charged like this then I’d say it’s a fairer system; but to isolate one illness & discriminate needs independent investigations !
profit before people ?????
yet the same company charged £1750 a week 3 years ago for a room for the same person with capacity for respite care (?) to visit family, paid for privately while social care services at PWD home still being paid for … ⚠️
-openness of charging of fees required
-commission rates from bed bureaus disclosed
- breakdown of costs published per PWD & care meeting their needs
it wont ever happen - big companies making huge profits off those dying with dementia a terminal illness !
if all terminal illnesses were charged like this then I’d say it’s a fairer system; but to isolate one illness & discriminate needs independent investigations !
profit before people ?????
^^^^^^ Totally agree.
My OH has paid £46,000 in 2.5yrs for just 2hrs care per day it would be double as he needs a double up but I act as second carer. I don't mind him paying for his care in principle, but we are a captive audience. There is little alternative as all care companies in our region charge the same within £2ph.
I don't need enough hours to employ someone private, and if I did then I would need at least 3 to cover holidays. sickness or days off so 3 lots of pension contributions, sickness/holiday pay and NI. I've looked and looked for self employed carers but the nearest is 15 miles away and not interested in traveling for an hours work twice a day.
So OH is stuck paying what he does.
My OH has paid £46,000 in 2.5yrs for just 2hrs care per day it would be double as he needs a double up but I act as second carer. I don't mind him paying for his care in principle, but we are a captive audience. There is little alternative as all care companies in our region charge the same within £2ph.
I don't need enough hours to employ someone private, and if I did then I would need at least 3 to cover holidays. sickness or days off so 3 lots of pension contributions, sickness/holiday pay and NI. I've looked and looked for self employed carers but the nearest is 15 miles away and not interested in traveling for an hours work twice a day.
So OH is stuck paying what he does.
The fee would not include daily living cost, it would be the fee for social care - help with dressing, feeding, personal care,....
Any nursing not provided by the community nursing service would be covered by funded nursing care.
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My point really was that this article explains , in simple terms, what the social care cap means in financial terms. And most people will still need to sell a property to fund care long before the £86k threshold is reached.
Sorry, didn't clarify - this was the amount quoted as a weekly care home fee, before any calculation for breakdown of hotel and care costs.
My point really was that this article explains , in simple terms, what the social care cap means in financial terms. And most people will still need to sell a property to fund care long before the £86k threshold is reached.
Surely, unless you have 86 grand (plus the 14G you're allowed to keep) in the bank, you'd have to sell your home anyway?
I'm pretty sure this is the case. Don't know if anyone else noticed but that phrase, 'No one should have to sell their house to pay for care!' that Boris was announcing proudly a few years ago was noticeably missing altogether from the new proposals. Obviously in the interim, someone has explained to him how the system actually works...
I'm pretty sure this is the case. Don't know if anyone else noticed but that phrase, 'No one should have to sell their house to pay for care!' that Boris was announcing proudly a few years ago was noticeably missing altogether from the new proposals. Obviously in the interim, someone has explained to him how the system actually works...
This will be my situation @Jaded'n'faded, so I have made the executive decision to retire and spend the lot, unless I become considerably wealthy by then -the nephews and neices will have to go without any inheritance. Cheap cremation and the plot is already paid for (so is the funeral for that matter)Surely, unless you have 86 grand (plus the 14G you're allowed to keep) in the bank, you'd have to sell your home anyway?
I'm pretty sure this is the case. Don't know if anyone else noticed but that phrase, 'No one should have to sell their house to pay for care!' that Boris was announcing proudly a few years ago was noticeably missing altogether from the new proposals. Obviously in the interim, someone has explained to him how the system actually works...
I've always been a planner / saver, just as my parents were. It did them no good whatsoever, and I'm now very much subscribing to the spend, spend, spend mentality. Or at least I would be... if I actually had any money! Sod's law I'll end up living to a hale and hearty 100+ and rueing my spendthrift attitude.
