1. Expert Q&A: Protecting a person with dementia from financial abuse - Weds 26 June, 3:30-4:30 pm

    Financial abuse can have serious consequences for a person with dementia. Find out how to protect a person with dementia from financial abuse.

    Sam, our Knowledge Officer (Legal and Welfare Rights) is our expert on this topic. She will be here to answer your questions on Wednesday 26 June between 3:30 - 4:30 pm.

    You can either post questions >here< or email them to us at talkingpoint@alzheimers.org.uk and we'll answer as many as we can on the day.

So sad but true What do you think?

Discussion in 'ARCHIVE FORUM: Resources' started by chip, Mar 18, 2008.

  1. chip

    chip Registered User

    Jul 19, 2005
    400
    Scotland
    I found this site about hospice and Dementia. I found it sad but its true. Take a look at it. I would like to hear your thoughts on a hospice for Dementia suffers. www.growthouse.org/nhwg/alz.htm
     
  2. jenniferpa

    jenniferpa Volunteer Moderator

    Jun 27, 2006
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    #2 jenniferpa, Mar 18, 2008
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  3. Canadian Joanne

    Canadian Joanne Volunteer Moderator

    Apr 8, 2005
    15,983
    Toronto, Canada
    Chip,
    A specialized hospice for dementia sufferers sounds like a very good idea to me. Getting one established might be a hard political battle.
     
  4. chip

    chip Registered User

    Jul 19, 2005
    400
    Scotland
  5. jenniferpa

    jenniferpa Volunteer Moderator

    Jun 27, 2006
    39,417
    The financial barriers would be immense as well. Dementia is such an open ended diagnosis. Most people who make use of hospice have a fairly well defined life-span, counted in weeks and months while people with dementia may continue with the disease for years. I do know someone in the US who removed their mother from a nursing home when she got to the point where she was no longer eating much, and got hospice care at home - the hospice nurses would come multiple times a day to bathe her and change her and allow my friend to run errands. It was a "good death" or as good as such deaths can be expected to be, but I doubt they would have got hospice if the doctor hadn't been prepared to stand up and say "6-8 weeks max"
     
  6. connie

    connie Registered User

    Mar 7, 2004
    9,519
    Frinton-on-Sea
    Thank you for the link, it is certainly food for thought.

    Whilst, during the past six years of my involvement with AD, I have heard of many deaths, not one has been in a hospice.

    I think it could be partially due to the point usually put:
    "you do not die from AD, but with AD". I have, in the past, been guilty of saying same myself. Not any more.

    It is one of the very, very few illnesses that certainly will end in death, and yet not acknowledged as such.
     
  7. Canadian Joanne

    Canadian Joanne Volunteer Moderator

    Apr 8, 2005
    15,983
    Toronto, Canada
    Connie, you are so right. I get angry when people say that my mother won't die of AD. I tell them "Yes, it will kill her and here are some of the ways in which it may happen".

    A week after my mother was diagnosed, I went to a seminar about AD. The speaker (who turned out to be my mother's specialist) was very direct and blunt - his words were "Alzheimer's is a terminal disease".
     
  8. CYN

    CYN Registered User

    Jan 4, 2008
    702
    east sussex
    refusal

    When my husband was in the last stages of his life i asked the local Hospice if they would take him. i told them he had been diagnosed with Vas Dem and they said that they did not take dementia patients. So i have to agree that in some cases one is looked after with more compassion if Cancer is the illness

    Cynthia
     
  9. connie

    connie Registered User

    Mar 7, 2004
    9,519
    Frinton-on-Sea
    Cynthia, a blank refusal is so hard to take, and must still be very raw, so thank you for sharing.

    Maybe if more people asked..............

    Who knows?
     
  10. citybythesea

    citybythesea Registered User

    Mar 23, 2008
    632
    coast of texas
    these past few weeks have been eye- opening for me. The article rings so true. My grandmother had hospice when she died and now her daughter has alzheimers and hospice is not an option. The one thing I truly regret is that the hospice nurses are so well trained and in tune with those last days. If only home health care nurses could be trained in the same way. I know the caseworker (RN) that comes to the house feels the same way I do. Problem is by the time an AD patient would qualify Hospices' way of helping the family wouldn't have the time to work it's wonderful magic.
     
  11. jacquelineb

    jacquelineb Registered User

    Mar 24, 2008
    2
    kent
    training

    I work as a trainer within the care industry, I try my hardest to get the carers to understand what people with dementia need, TLC being the number one priority, it is so hard to put across sometimes that people with dementia are changing all the time, that they are not the same people as when they first come into the home, or if they are domicillary workers they need to support the relatives as well, I feel I know a little of what I am talking about as my Dad had Alzheimers when he was 62 and died when he was 65, my Mum didnt get any help except to be told "she could have inco pads for him if she liked!" Some help that was! I know that we are governed by that great god money but there must be some way we could make life so much beter foe people with dementia and their relatives and friends.
     
  12. Grannie G

    Grannie G Volunteer Moderator

    Apr 3, 2006
    68,678
    Kent
    Thank you for that Jacqueline.

    What a relief to know there are some out there who do not see those with dementia as not worthy of respect.
     

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