1. Expert Q&A: Protecting a person with dementia from financial abuse - Weds 26 June, 3:30-4:30 pm

    Financial abuse can have serious consequences for a person with dementia. Find out how to protect a person with dementia from financial abuse.

    Sam, our Knowledge Officer (Legal and Welfare Rights) is our expert on this topic. She will be here to answer your questions on Wednesday 26 June between 3:30 - 4:30 pm.

    You can either post questions >here< or email them to us at talkingpoint@alzheimers.org.uk and we'll answer as many as we can on the day.

  1. tas213

    tas213 Registered User

    Aug 24, 2015
    2
    Hi I hope someone can help my fil has had to go into a home and we lead to believe that he would have to self fund so everything is set up that way at the moment but today we were told that they can only touch savings that are in his or joint names is this true and if it is true and he could be LA funded and their was a short fall needing a top up would his 2 sons be liable to pay it or could his wife pay the shortfall out of the saving which are in her name because for some reason most of the money is in her name
     
  2. Beate

    Beate Registered User

    May 21, 2014
    11,496
    Female
    London
    The financial assessment is for the person going into a care home. Any of their savings/assets and half of any joint assets/accounts will be counted. Your MIL's own money will not be touched.

    Don't sign any top-up agreements in haste. The LA has the responsibility to find a suitable home within their price bracket. If they can't and only a more expensive home meets his needs, they will simply have to up their payments. Top-ups only come into play if there would be a cheaper suitable home but you are rejecting it, or you want a bigger room/better view etc. As far as I understand it, the new Care Act says that family members can now pay these top-ups.
     
  3. Kevinl

    Kevinl Registered User

    Aug 24, 2013
    4,668
    Salford
    #3 Kevinl, Aug 25, 2015
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2015
    Hi Tas, welcome to TP
    I'm not clear about what's been said exactly.
    Any money solely in your mother in law's name can't be touched, she doesn't even need to tell anyone about it, the assessment of finances should be for you FIL alone. Only money in his name solely or half the money in any joint accounts will be taken into consideration, you do have to disclose any joint accounts.
    If he had (roughly) under £14k in his name the council pay, £14k - £24k he pays part over £24k and he self funds no one else has to pay anything.
    Top ups can be paid if you want a £1k a week and the council can find a suitable place for less, but it has to meet all his needs as defined in the 2015 act, below is a link to the AZ society factsheet,
    No one, sons, wife or whatever would "be liable to pay" anything.
    Share what you're happy to but what you've said doesn't seem right.
    There is one caveat, if all the funds/house were recently put into someone else's name specially if it was after diagnosis the they may see that as being a "deprivation of assets" but if the money was and has been always in your MIL's name then tough on the council they have to pay.
    As Beate says don't sign anything until you have the full picture, I suggest you go to; the local AZ society, AgeUK or citizens advice before you go any further.
    Posting on here will get you some very sound advice but you might have to disclose more than you're comfortable with on a public forum.
    K

    http://www.alzheimers.org.uk/site/scripts/download_info.php?downloadID=1461
     

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