Reasonably with it one day, sound asleep the next. What do I tell her family ?

nae sporran

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Some of you have read my recent posts about C being in and out of hospital for the past 3 and a half months. Thanks for your answers and support.
She is still in there, been back a little over 4 weeks. During that time she has moved 3 times and is currently in isolation in her won room due to C Diff. It's not the toxic kind, but can be infectious if the person in the next bed has compromised immunity. I think that was explanation. I can only visit for an hour every day and some days she is awake and aware for 50 minutes out of that and engages with her children on the phone or WhatsApp video. Other days she is barely aware of anything. She is hardly eating or drinking. Th nurses and the doctors just put it down to her dementia and her medication, but her daughter refuses to accept any explanation.
She has been on and off of antibiotics. The consultant is now considering lorazapam on a low dose for a short term to ease anxiety and make getting her in and out of bed less stressful. The nurse told me she was up for about 10 minutes this morning, but the stress and the anxiety it put her through was too much. They can't leave her in bed as her muscles are wasting away. I helped the nurse get her out of bed last week and saw how little muscle mass she has in her legs. Getting her out of bed for a short while is so stressful as she still remembers the pain the blistering caused and tenses up as soon as they go near her.
That's all problems for the medical staff to work out and I don't envy them it. C's daughter wants them to take her off all of her medication and told the poor junior doctor that on the phone on Friday after I had a constructive conversation with the consultant and the junior doc. That's not meant as a criticism. She is not well and feels frustrated she can't visit.
In the meantime we are waiting for a nursing home assessment bed, but they are rarer than hen's teeth even in Bristol. As usual, thanks for reading and any ideas on what to tell C's daughter or what to ask the nurses would be appreciated. All the best to you all in your own situations, Rob
 

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Oh Rob, Im so sorry to hear about C. Such a sad state of affairs.
Im afraid that I have no wise words about what to say to Cs daughter, but wanted to let you know that Im thinking of you
xx
 

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Aw Rob I’m so sorry to hear about C’s situation. How terribly sad for you both.

Sorry, no wise words from me either. I can only agree that the only thing you can do is keep her in the loop.
 

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Sounds awful @nae sporran Dad had a dreadful three week hospital stay and it did him no good at all. The loss of muscle mass to dads legs and arms was similar and I remember being shocked at this along with his weight loss. Dad did come home though and he got mobile again so there is always hope.

As @canary says it is a sorry state of affairs and I can only wish you and C well and hope the situation improves. As for the daughter she probably doesn't know what to do or say either.
 

nae sporran

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Thanks everyone. I just feel C is going to slip away from lack of eating and lack of the energy to eat or drink. The doctors are doing what they can, and I still hope a move to a nursing home bed will get her some kind of more settled state, but we're moving to a new phase and there's nothing I do to stop it.
 

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I have such empathy with you. Thinking of you and wishing all the strength possible. ?
 

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I'm sorry C is still in hospital, it must be worth giving lorezepam a try to see if it can get her out of the loop.

I'm sorry you are still struggling with C's daughter. She wants/needs to be doing something to 'fix' things and is struggling to understand but this doesn't help you. Can you direct her to speaking to anyone you know via carers group that might be able to get through to her that it is a waiting game and things move slowly.
 

nae sporran

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Thank you both for your support.
I tend to agree that the lorazapam is worth trying, though after problems with strong opiates last time I have convinced the specialist to start low and review after a week. Giving C's daughter the phone number for the carers line or the carers liaison at the hospital might be worthwhile to try to get her someone independent to explain. I have a horrible feeling she would just tell them they are wrong too, but it might put her mind at ease on the process, @jugglingmum.
 

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It sounds as if C`s body has taken such a battering this past few months, @nae sporran, it isn`t strong enough to recover.

I remember a time when all medication, diabetic, prostate, osteoporosis was withdrawn because it was felt my husband`s body was past the stage of benefitting from them. His condition didn`t deteriorate for quite a while later.

I`m sure the medics are doing all they can but it does sound as if C is weakening. It`s such a pity a nursing home cannot be found for her to get her away from the hospital environment and allow her more personal care.

Perhaps is C`s daughter wants to help so much she could put pressure on the powers that be to get some good residential care for her mother.
 

nae sporran

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Thank you, Sylvia. C's daughter keeps asking if she has given up and I was thinking it was more like her body not having the energy left to fight. I'm scared to go down the route of withdrawing medication as it fells like the beginning of the end. Your sad experience suggests she may still have longer than I was thinking, but what a horrible decision to make.
Thank you canary.
 

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I hope the lorazepam helps C feel a bit calmer. I imagine her daughter is one of those people who thinks that all problems can be solved and all she needs to do is make enough fuss and it will happen. Add in her natural concern for her mother and I can see why things are so difficult.
Thinking of you all @nae sporran