Predatory marriage Concerned my father is about to become a victim

Rollercoaster1

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Hi,
First time posting here but have become desperate and at my wits end with how to help my dad and protect us as a family.
Will try and keep it as short as I can. Dad is 90 and lives on his own . Until last August he he was fit and healthy for his age and helping the old people in the community. Then last August he arrived at my house one day , told me he had had a funny turn and now when he looks in the mirror he knows it’s him but he doesn’t know who he is. Fast forward a week after immediately attending a&e with him and subsequent follow ups they put his funny turn down to a TIA. fast forward 6 months and his mental health is declining rapidly and there is definitely some sort of dementia going on. In hindsight now, as a family we can see that his memory and cognitive ability has been declining for sometime, months and maybe even years . His next door neighbour is 60 widowed twice, the most recent being around a year ago. Since dads funny turn last August he has been convinced he is going to marry the next door neighbour. We thought it a really odd thing to say, everyone did, even the medical staff, as no mention of this next door neighbour had been made before in his life. We all put it down to delirium at the time and his ‘funny turn’ . subsequently, speaking to the next door neighbour, she is quite happy to apparently be engaged to my father with the intention to marry. She even drove him to the jewellers and came back with a huge engagement ring and wedding ring . When speaking with him he clearly has no idea of the consequences of marriage or what it means even. I can only describe it as the sort of conversation on an intellectual level you would have with a 3 or 4 year old when you talk about what they think marriage is. He just seems to have an obsession with marriage but can’t explain to me what is actually is. I should add that they do not live in the same house, however she welcomes him into her home and her bed when she feels like it . We are now at the stage where everything changes daily, one day he calls me and tells me an announces he is getting married like he’s never told me before, the next he calls me and tells me the man next door has made him sleep with him, ( he sometimes thinks the woman next door is a man) the next day he calls me and tells me the woman next door has screamed at him like a banshee and she’s an ogre. the next day he calls and tells me he’s getting married to the woman next door. He has forgotten each call and what he has said the day before as he makes them. He has become very child like and you can’t reason with him or explain his behaviour to him . The woman next door, is still saying she’s convinced there is nothing wrong with dad and that he loves her and she will marry him. I have tried to get him to the doctors many times for an assessment as he is going down hill fast and I am concerned on all sorts of levels however he tells me he would ‘rather give that a miss’ I have suggested he move , either in with us ( I’m happy to have him) or move to retirement apartments where he can socialise with people his own age, he’s not having any of it! I honestly believe that the behaviour of his neighbour amounts to nothing less than abuse of a vulnerable elderly man and I desperately need to get him the diagnosis he deserves to be able to support him properly. I have tried social services but that hasn’t helped. His gp is concerned but unless he is willing to see her there is little she can do. The worry is making me ill and I would appreciate if anyone has any suggestions . Sorry for such a long post!
 

love.dad.but..

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That sounds a worrying situation. It is not unusual for a person with dementia to become fixated on someone, something..like money or lack of, someone stealing from them etc.It all hinges on whether he has sufficient mental capacity to make decisions even if you consider them unwise. If you or the GP are very concerned... I would contact SS urgently again and ask for another assessment along the lines of... for a vulnerable adult at risk from being coerced into something he doesn't fully understand which could have serious implications for his welfare. Could you contact his GP with your concerns and get him there on some pretext...the GP has made an appt for his annual check, bloods, going with you on a matter for you, etc. Have you got lpa in place? If not, try and persuade your dad as a matter of urgency, he will need to have enough mental capacity to do this which from what you describe maybe borderline. .if he is reluctant say you are doing yours as well. He only needs to understand what he is signing at time of signing no matter if he forgets later.Someone else will be along with more advice.
 

LadyA

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I believe both parties need to have mental capacity for any marriage to be valid.

To get my husband to the doctor, I used to pretend the appointment was for me and ask him to come with me. Thankfully, the doctor was very aware and very good with my husband. He would look at my throat and listen to my chest, while al the while chatting away to my husband, and gathering the answers he needed from him! Then he'd say casually "Sure, seeing as you're here, I may as well take a quick look at you too! Two for the price of one, eh?" And my husband would be delighted! :D

But you do need to get Social Services involved urgently. It sounds like your dad is very vulnurable.
 

Louise7

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With regards your comment "she welcomes him into her bed" - do you know that for a fact, or is this just something that your dad has said?

Personally I would go straight to the social services safeguarding team first rather than the team that you have previously spoken to and explain that he is very vulnerable and at potential risk of sexual abuse.
 

Havemercy

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Firstly contact SS for an urgent assessment, mention safeguarding issue - which there clearly is. I’d be making plans to visit a few care homes in your area as well. I would also warn this next door neighbour that her behaviour is nothing but short of abuse and that you are involving the appropriate authorities and leave it at that. Your dad needs immediate protection. Such a big worry for you but hopefully you will get help. The test of mental capacity will be the key thing here as you know. I agree that contacting the Safeguarding team (social services) of your father's local authority is the way to go. However I found a link to a legal firm who seem to specialise in marriage and mental capacity issues (other firms will be available and it was only found on google). Maybe worth giving them a call for advice even if it would cost. Good luck and it would be useful to find out how things pan out.
https://www.enablelaw.com/news/latest-news/dementia-marriage-new-way-forward/
 

Havemercy

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Sorry don't know what happened there - but my post seems to have attached to Ducky601.
 

Rollercoaster1

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Thank you to everyone who has replied. It means a lot, just writing it all down has helped to be honest too. The woman makes no secret of welcoming dad into her bed, yesterday he was upset because he thought he was being made to sleep with a man and apparently left the house at midnight and went back to his own. I am at the point where I am unable to have a rational conversation with her, in fact , I am ashamed to say I scared to try and speak to her anymore for fear of my own actions. My daughter suggested that her lack of understanding and behaviour may actually suggest that she is not too well as well. What makes it worse though is I used to work with her, I know her background and I knew her when her first husband fell down the stairs and died and quite soon after she had an affair with and married her first husbands best friend , who has also died at the age of 60. Dad is very good at appearing relatively normal in from of drs and social services etc which is what happened at the last as visit. I believe this is quite usual. SS weren’t interested in the fact that I had known my dad for 50 years and his normal day to day behaviour had significantly changed to the point where I was extremely concerned for his welfare, in fact I was left feeling like I was the bad guy and it affected me badly. His gp is more on board and I think understands what’s going on. Several people have told me to get him to gp on a pretext which I think I now have no choice to do. I feel like I’m lying to dad though and being dishonest, something I’ve never done but think it’s time to start realising I need to do whatever I need to do to ensure he is protected. I have always been a sensible, rational and understanding person who is well educated and with a demanding job, I have brought up 3 successful respectful children and somehow this situation is slowly stripping me of the person I have always been and my protective instinct towards my father has gone into overdrive. I do have LPA, well, it’s been signed and registered, just waiting for it to come back now so at least that’s something. I have also contacted a lady who’s mother was victim of predatory marriage and an mp called Fabian Hamilton who has raised the issue in the commons. The mother was registered by her gp as having lost mental capacity but she still was able to marry which happened in secret behind the back of her family . Her daughter lost everything trying to fight the case when she died and the courts ruled in favour of the now husband purely because registrars do not have the level of training needed to assess for mental capacity before they marry someone. The registrar in this case said she appeared ok at the time of her marriage and that was good enough for the marriage to be upheld . Thank you everyone, you have all given me the strength to power on and keep going for the sake of dad x
 

Moggymad

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@Rollercoaster1 what an awful situation to be in. I think I would lie about him needing a health checkup before marriage or for insurance because of his age before marriage putting it across as though it's to help him & his future 'wife'.
Also the safeguarding team is a priority.
Not the same situation but I had similar misgivings when my FIL was widowed. We did all we could to encourage him to return to the weekly dance evening he used to enjoy with his wife as being a very quiet man he was otherwise unlikely to socialise. On his first visit back he was warmly welcomed by the ladies & one in particular made a bee line for him. Within 3 months they were like a 'married' couple. He seemed obsessed with her too & everything he did was about & for her. Although a similar age I was concerned as she had been widowed twice & had so quickly 'homed in' on him. I know my partner felt annoyed when more & more of her clothes were at his dad's house & she was virtually living there. After only 3 months I think he felt it disrespected his mums memory to be happening so soon & I was a bit uneasy I do admit. However all turned out well in the end & they just needed companionship & found love together. Sadly she is now in a care home & he has dementia, being supported at home by the family.
Your dad perhaps thinks he is a much younger man not recognising himself in the mirror. In your case I would be very concerned as to her motives & do whatever I could to divert his 'obsession' elsewhere however you can. He sounds like a man that needs to be involved in something to focus his mind away from her.
 
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JoannePat

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What a sad situation for you and your family. I really feel for you all. Have you thought about staying at your dads a couple of times a week? Or have lunch with the two of them to see how he interacts with her. You might have to have a few lunches, to compare his reactions with her. We all know how they are able to put up a front for a short period, ie in front of the dr or Social Worker, but if the three of you meet up, you may get a better idea.

Does she have children or family that you can include?

I wish you all the best, x