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angelict

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My Man scored 44 out of 90 in January when the CPN came out to see her. I did ask her about POA but she wouldn't do it I then asked a doctor in March and she wouldn't do it either. Is it too late now to put something in place my Mam can sign her name she's even doing a crossword this morning. As she's just come out of hospital again and I'm waiting to hear from the Dementia Team which I'm assuming is the OPMH team which saw her the beginning of the year. My Mam wouldn't be able to manage on her own if I wasn't here looking after her. I'm near in tears with worry and tbh I'm exhausted with it. I've already done a needs assessment and my Mam was discharged. If the Doctor deems her recent urine test and blood tests are not okay will he admit her to hospital against her will as she's only recently been discharged as medically fit which I guess means they wanted the bed.
 

Veritas

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To be honest, it sounds like it's unlikely that your mother could give consent to setting up an LPA. I'd suggest you contact the Office of the Public Guardian for advice on how to proceed. My guess is that you are now looking at this process: www.gov.uk/become-deputy.

It's not necessarily the case that your mother would be admitted to hospital just because her blood tests were a bit abnormal, or for a UTI. However, it does sound like you need support, and you are entitled to a needs assessment in your own right as carer. Insist upon it. It is not enough for social services to assume that you will do all that's necessary.
 

Shedrech

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hi @angelict
as long as your mam understands and agrees at the time of signing the documents it's fine to go ahead with LPAs
and by this, it's fine if she grasps that the LPAs mean her Attorneys are legally able to help her with her money and talk with medics, and that's what she wants .... she doesn't have to understand all the legal terms nor does she have to be able to explain it all back at a later time ... as long as the Cert Provider honestly believes she knows what she is doing when she signs

I suggest she has at least 2 Attorneys, to act jointly and severally, and a replacement for just in case


if your mam has capacity and refuses to set up LPAs, then you are stuck (it's her right and decision) until/unless she is deemed to no longer have capacity when you can apply to become her Deputy

if you were asking the GP to be a certificate provider, they very rarely agree to this .... ask someone who has known your mam well for several years, it doesn't have to be a medical professional ... see the info in the link about who can and cannot fulfil this role
 
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angelict

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I've had to do all the work I have got support from Mind which I put in place the beginning of the year. I don't know how bad my Mam's dementia is as no one is saying anything. The woman from social services had me doing all the running around and then she said as long as I wanted to look after her whatever that means I just feel lost at the moment as anytime things are in a mess I'm left to sort it all out unless she seems my Mam for reablement which means it would be out of my hands.
 

Shedrech

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hi again @angelict
if your mam has been in hospital, as I understand it, she has a right to a re-ablement care package for 6 weeks ... the social worker should not be putting it back on to you to provide the care

when there is a care package in place, the Local Authority Adult Services have the duty of care to ensure the appropriate level of care is provided .... you do not have the duty of care ... no adult has the responsibility to provide care for another adult, that falls to the LA (although, of course, many of us do feel responsible and do provide practocally all the care) ..... it's not that it's 'out of your hands', it's more that the care agreed in the care package has to be provided and should be provided by paid carers not family members

sadly, though, Social Services seem to be overstretched and can leave the family to it if someone is standing in and providing care, using that "as long as you want to do it" mantra ... sometimes you have to step back and make it clear you cannot and will not provide personal care

after the re-ablement, a continuing level of care should be agreed ... at that point your mam's finances will be assessed and if her income and savings are above a certain level, she will pay, below that the LA will contribute

Admiral Nurses are there to support carers, maybe you have a local nurse or could call their supportline ... they really are helpful
 

angelict

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Never heard from a social worker when she was in hospital which I found a bit odd. My Man didn't want the care package my lady from Mind advised me at the time that under DOLS she had the right to return to her property then she was discharged.
 

Shedrech

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hi @angelict
I think it would help you if you have a chance to actually chat this all through with someone in real time
there's Admiral Nurses, who are specialists in supporting carers of those with dementia
and the Dementia Connect support line ... the advisors are knowledeable and understanding

sadly, if your mam is refusing to accept care at home, as long as she has capacity, she can't be forced to accept it .... however, no-one will step in as long as you fill in the cracks ... awful as it sounds, you may need to step back or find ways to stealthily put care in place
 

angelict

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I have spoke to them before but they said there isn't anything they can do. Anytime my Mam can't reasonnthings she puts the blame on me