Over 75's to pay for TV licence

Discussion in 'Health and wellbeing' started by Palerider, Jul 3, 2019.

  1. Palerider

    Palerider Registered User

    Aug 9, 2015
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    North West
    The BBC is going to start charging TV licence fees to over 75's and it feels justified in doing this. I feel that it is wrong for peole over 75 to continue funding a company that yielded £3.83 billion in 2017–18 in licence fees, of which £655.3 million was covered by government in concessions for over 75's

    I was wondering how people feel about this. I am sure it won't affect some as they will be able to afford the fee, but others will struggle with this. TV for some people is one of their only vices in terms of wellbeing as they become more limited to remaining at home.

    Does anyone have any vews on this?
     
  2. Jale

    Jale Registered User

    Jul 9, 2018
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    Female
    Personally I think it is a disgrace. For many old people the TV is all they have. Perhaps they should at cutting the wages of some of their so called stars first
     
  3. AliceA

    AliceA Registered User

    May 27, 2016
    2,232
    I agree with you both. It is what gives me respite, my husband watches sport while I read. I have signed AGEUK petitions etc.
     
  4. Rach1985

    Rach1985 Registered User

    Jun 9, 2019
    398
    I thought it was being means tested? In which case I think it’s fair. My fella’s Dad has 200k plus in savings and pensions but claims for the tv and the winter fuel allowance because he can not because he needs it.
    As long as it’s means tested at a fair amount then I agree, if it’s scrapped for everyone then it’s unfair
     
  5. Normaleila

    Normaleila Registered User

    Jun 4, 2016
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    I don't want to comment on whether it's right or wrong. For me, the most interesting fact was that about 40% of people who could qualify for pension credit don't claim it. (Those in receipt of credit will be exempt from the licence fee.)
    Apparently there are 2 thresholds for pension credit - even if your income is higher than the income threshold you can still qualify if your savings are below the savings threshold. Hope this makes sense - as you can see I don't have the facts and figures at my fingertips.
    Please check and double check if you might qualify.
     
  6. nae sporran

    nae sporran Volunteer Host

    Oct 29, 2014
    5,712
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    Bristol
    I understand you get an exemption if you claim pension credit. I am thinking about getting rid of our television as it is impossible to watch anything without a 2 hour argument about something my partner misheard in the maelstrom of presenter and pointless background / foreground noise they believe is actually atmospheric music.
    Sorry for the rant.
     
  7. nitram

    nitram Registered User

    Apr 6, 2011
    18,828
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    North Manchester
    Unless there is a change of heart it will be, as is council tax, winter fuel payment is different, it is not means tested but cold weather payment is.

    Not supporting any channel, why should anybody pay an annual fee effectively to the BBC if all they want to watch is ITV which I believe is financially self supporting in all respects?
    If all BBC channels were made subscription (don't know how with present set up) it would be interesting to see what the fees would have be to enable them to continue with current schedules.
     
  8. Melles Belles

    Melles Belles Registered User

    Jul 4, 2017
    359
    Female
    South east
    The government chose to move the cost of the free licenses to the BBC and now they are blaming them for ending it for all except those on pension credit. It was a government decision and it is a huge % of the BBC budget and they would have to close several tv and radio channels. The government should fund it
     
  9. Rosettastone57

    Rosettastone57 Registered User

    Oct 27, 2016
    910
    My mother-in-law lost the capacity to even turn on a television. She had two but they were never used for 3 years. I wonder could I have argued she didn't need a licence, as she didn't know how to turn it on ?
     
  10. Rach1985

    Rach1985 Registered User

    Jun 9, 2019
    398
    Yes actually if she didn’t use the radio either you could’ve not had a license
     
  11. nitram

    nitram Registered User

    Apr 6, 2011
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    Male
    North Manchester
    Solution is to cut the supply wire off as near to the set you can get.

    If TVlicencing query 'why no licence' invite then to come and look at the
    dysfunctional set explaining what you have done and it is because the PWD enjoys looking at the inert TV.
    The wire can be easily replaced later if needs be, the TV is not junk.
     
  12. nita

    nita Registered User

    Dec 30, 2011
    1,790
    Female
    Essex
    You don't need a licence if you just listen to the radio.
     
  13. nitram

    nitram Registered User

    Apr 6, 2011
    18,828
    Male
    North Manchester
    You can use a radio without any licence - true in 80s, no reason to suspect any change.

    I was running a shop and wanted local radio as background, no TV.
    I knew the radio licence had been discontinued, supposedly subsume into the TV licence.

    After much toing and froing I got it in writing that although the TV licence included the radio licence if I did not want to use a TV I could use a radio without a TV licence as a radio licence did not exist.

    At times like Christmas I also played looped tapes, drove staff mad even though they could supply the tapes.

    The hoops to be gone through to allow me to legally do this where unbelievable.
     
  14. jugglingmum

    jugglingmum Registered User

    Jan 5, 2014
    5,022
    Female
    Chester
    My mum hasn't got a TV and I've advised them of this instead of a £zero licence. I was phoned to check this was still the case as this lasts for 5 years.

    Had this discussion with a neighbour, and his comment was that he won't mind paying, like most houses in our area (we are much younger than most of our neighbours) he has virgin, and netflix and other subscription channels. He added he doesn't think he should get the xmas bonus or winter fuel allowance and these should be means tested as well.
     
  15. Rach1985

    Rach1985 Registered User

    Jun 9, 2019
    398
    Sorry I thought you needed a licence because when I listen to it on an app on my phone (bbc sounds) it asks if you have a tv licence
    My mistake
     
  16. nitram

    nitram Registered User

    Apr 6, 2011
    18,828
    Male
    North Manchester

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