1. tachometer

    tachometer Registered User

    Mar 22, 2008
    9
    east midlands
    Hello. I have just joined. My mother has had vascular dementia for 5 years. She is now in a care home but has experienced care at home:), hospitalisation:mad:, respite care:confused:, district nurse care:D, abuse by a Social Services carer:(, being 'not wanted' by a home:( and a bad care home :(and a good care home :)in short she and her relatives have had a very eventful five years! ...and much experience to call on...
    Tachometer
     
  2. Skye

    Skye Registered User

    Aug 29, 2006
    17,000
    SW Scotland
    Hi Tachometer, welcome.

    You and your mum have certainly been through the mill in the last five years.

    I hope you'll contribute some of your experience tp help others.

    Best wishes,
     
  3. Margarita

    Margarita Registered User

    Feb 17, 2006
    10,824
    london
    Welcome to TP tachometer
    sounds like a No win situation for your mother care home or home care .

    was your mother living alone in her home , when she had abuse from SS carer in her own flat or house ?
     
  4. hendy

    hendy Registered User

    Feb 20, 2008
    506
    West Yorkshire
    Hi Tachometer
    Snap!! Except its my dad and I'm the only one caring for him. I joined TP only very recently and wish I'd found it years ago!! Its such a great support and full of information. Well done for finding it! Are you the main carer tachometer?
    take care
    hendy
     
  5. heartbroken

    heartbroken Registered User

    Feb 17, 2008
    747
    derbyshire
    Hi and welcome to TP
     
  6. tachometer

    tachometer Registered User

    Mar 22, 2008
    9
    east midlands
    She was not alone, my father was asleep in another room and myself and another carer were present and we saw the SS(appropriate initials) carer knocked her arms off the side of her chair and forced her to stand and shouted orders at her. The result of our complaint and investigation was that she was 'shadowed'. Some weeks later I saw her in a supermarket in her uniform barking orders to some unfortunate companion.
     
  7. tachometer

    tachometer Registered User

    Mar 22, 2008
    9
    east midlands
     
  8. hendy

    hendy Registered User

    Feb 20, 2008
    506
    West Yorkshire
    Tachometer
    Goodness me your account is a catalogue of neglect and abuse. I have had similar concerns about Dad in a Care home. This one too seemed to be going 'down hill'. A now faced with prospect of him going in another.( bit more positive about the next one) You're absolutely right 'vigilance' is what is required in these circumstances. Yet some people have had very positive experiences of homes. I have been so vigilant recently, it borders on the 'paranoid' at times! However, i have had results in some small way. Care for my Dad has improved. I have promised myself to keep a diary so that events can be recorded, good or bad.
    take care
    hendy
     
  9. Skye

    Skye Registered User

    Aug 29, 2006
    17,000
    SW Scotland
     
  10. tachometer

    tachometer Registered User

    Mar 22, 2008
    9
    east midlands
    Drugs

    At my mother's 'new' home (she has been there a year) all drugs are administered by nurses and there's little likelihood of abuse.
    The old home (the one now shut down) is where the drugs were administered by carers.
    I've no evidence and was told about the stealing by an ex-carer at the Home- she did say that the person involved was sacked - but re-employed at a later date!

    Tachometer
     
  11. connie

    connie Registered User

    Mar 7, 2004
    9,519
    Frinton-on-Sea
    Have to say that the above, as quoted by Skye, is the same system as they use in Lionel's home. Senior staff only have keys to the trolley, and records are meticulously kept.

    Sorry that you have had such bad experiences Tachometer.
     
  12. tachometer

    tachometer Registered User

    Mar 22, 2008
    9
    east midlands
    The had the same as above at my mother's old Home, however it only took one bad carer to work the system.

    The courses for carers to learn how to administer are also very basic- it the old Home it was one run by Boots.

    Hopefully, this sort of theft is not widespread, but how would we know?

    The fact that residents are often left with their medicines to decide whether to take or not because only the minimum intervention is allowed to persuade the person to take meds, compounds the problem because it is easy for a carer to register that the medicine was taken when it was not.

    Tachometer
     
  13. connie

    connie Registered User

    Mar 7, 2004
    9,519
    Frinton-on-Sea
    If that truely is the case, then it should be reported.:confused:

    Not so where my dear Lionel is I am happy to say.
     
  14. tachometer

    tachometer Registered User

    Mar 22, 2008
    9
    east midlands
    If you re-read my second post, you will see that the 'old home' was well and truly reported not just by me, I have reports going into many pages, however that does not cure the system, nor does it help that CSCI is very inadequate.
    Tachometer
     
  15. connie

    connie Registered User

    Mar 7, 2004
    9,519
    Frinton-on-Sea
    O.K. so what is the message that you are trying to put across now?

    We all have to do our homework, as best we may, on what is suitable for our loved ones.

    However, I would not want members to be put off by horror stories. There are as many, if not more, good homes out there, we just have to be selective.

    A minefield I acknowledge. Let us not add to the trauma of placing someone we love into care.
     
  16. hendy

    hendy Registered User

    Feb 20, 2008
    506
    West Yorkshire
    Hello tachometer
    I too am coming to realise that CSCI reports are inadequate. How can we guard against abuse and neglect in homes??I realised things werent right and called in Care home laision. But there were other issues which didn't come to light until dad left the home. What would you suggest we do Tachometer to protect our loved ones?
    take care
    hendy
     
  17. tachometer

    tachometer Registered User

    Mar 22, 2008
    9
    east midlands
    How can we protect?.....

    I don't know how we can protect except by visiting frequently (I visit 6 days a week), varying the times of visits, attending relatives meetings and keeping watchful.
    I think it also helps to have a plan B (and also probably a plan C!)...like knowing of an alternative good home and/or having a plan for temporary care at home if needbe.
    But also entering into the stream of general awareness via these forums etc. is all helping to make people reaslise all may not be well about care homes.
    At one stage I did feel like bugging the 'old home' but could never think where to put the tape recorder so it would not be detected!:)

    Tachometer
     
  18. hendy

    hendy Registered User

    Feb 20, 2008
    506
    West Yorkshire
    Hello tachometer
    And I thought i was paranoid... I hadn't thought of bugging!!
    Seriously, thats very good advice. i just wished I could visit Dad that often...
    Thanks for your reply
    take care
    hendy
     
  19. tachometer

    tachometer Registered User

    Mar 22, 2008
    9
    east midlands
    what message am I putting across?

    obviously my messages have upset connie. I thought it was a forum for discussing facts. I am very new to forums.
    I do not want to upset anyone. I am sure there are good homes. I have met them.
    My message is the truth of my story and could I help someone else with it and also that there are many problems regarding care homes.
    I notice that other threads discuss these too.

    However, I am signing off as it is not a healthy track to pursue.

    Tachometer
     
  20. jenniferpa

    jenniferpa Volunteer Moderator

    Jun 27, 2006
    39,418
    There is of course a fine line between making people aware of potential problems, and making people unduly paranoid. We have (many of us any way) had a variety of different experiences with care homes: some great, some awful, most somewhere in between.

    I'm not sure why you have singled out Connie as being someone who us unduly upset. Just because someone doesn't continue to post on a thread does not mean anything other than that they have not posted again on the thread. Nothing more, nothing less.
     

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