New member - my story

midwifemia

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Oct 7, 2008
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Hi everyone,

I've lurked here for a little while and it's been a bit of a mixed blessing; in some ways nice to know we're not the only ones and in others ways horrible to see how much farther we might have to go.

My sisters & I were told at the beginning of last year that our mum, who was only 66 at the time, had Alzheimer's and vascular dementia - it seems that the doctor had known for around 2 years but hadn't passed the information on to us. Nor to our mother, who has never been told (she is now past the point of understanding anyway). He had even told my sister and my mother, when they went for the results of an MRI scan, that nothing abnormal was seen, though as it turns out this was a lie. Not sure why he did it and don't see the point in getting annoyed about it, it wouldn't have changed anything really.

At that point mum was still self-caring, one of my sisters lived just round the corner from her and went in most days to see how she was doing, and we thought it would continue in this vein for some time. She knew something was wrong, she knew she was confused, depressed and forgetful, just not that it was all being caused by Alzheimer's. We had a big debate because she had said, quite clearly, that if she found out she had Alzheimer's then she would kill herself. She meant it. We collectively decided not to tell her - we still don't know whether this was the right thing to do, but that's what we did.

I went away travelling in September, something I'd been planning since before her diagnosis. I kept in regular touch (thank goodness for Skype) and could hear she was declining with every phone call. To cut a long story short, when my sister went away on holiday, social services did an assessment and judged she was unable to look after herself so she was offered respite care in a home specialising in dementia for the 2 weeks. She was offered a permanent place in the home as soon as she got there, as it was clear she was in need of care 24/7.

I was devastated when she went into the home, but also relieved that the burden was not on my sisters anymore to look after her in her own home. She was stick thin, because she didn't eat unless she was actually presented with something, or she'd eat something inappropriate (like still frozen garlic bread). She thought she had invisible people living in her house, including a woman who looked just like her who lived in her bedroom mirror. She she said hated this woman and wanted to kill her. But knowing she'd deteriorated so fast and far was hard to bear. I'm actually so glad I wasn't there when she went in, because she still had periods where she was relatively compus mentas at the time, and thinking of how scared she must have been to know where she was and why is unbearable. She'd packed a bag initially and tried to abscond over the garden wall. I really don't know how I'd have coped with it. But now she's beyond all that.

I came back from travelling just over a month ago and saw her for the first time in a year. It was beyond awful. My mother is just not there anymore at all - it's just a strange person who speaks total gibberish in my mother's voice, and lives in a much older version of my mother's body.

The main problem is that she is that she is still fairly young - 68 now - and physically fairly fit. She is quite a handful for the staff at the home: she sets off the fire alarms and the fire extinguishers! She shouts, tries to kick in locked doors and hits other people! She has also got herself a boyfriend in the home, another resident, and she will hold hands with him all the time and snog him - tongues and all - in front of us. She has been found in bed with him on several occasions by the staff. As someone who was single for 20 years before this and was very vocal about her dislike of the opposite sex, this is quite a turnabout and a sharp reminder to us of how she's changed! She's settled in very well to the home and now doesn't want to leave even when she has the opportunity to go out visiting somewhere. She says she has to look after all the 'children' (the other residents).

For me, the worst thing of all is seeing my mother in this home, which is full of (and I apologise so much for this, I hope this does not offend anyone) proper old people with severe dementia, some of whom do nothing but sit and say 'lalalallala' all day; seeing her in this environment and knowing that she actually fits in there, well that's the worst thing. It seems surreal that she should belong there, she's still so young and was such a forceful character. The thought that I haven't yet had children, and that if I do have a family now, she will never know me as a mother, and my children will never know her, is heartbreaking. At least I can take comfort in the knowledge that she seems happy there, with her boyfriend, with lots of clothes to fold (her new favourite thing) and her 'children' to look after and know that if I'm there to visit, fine, and if I'm not, she doesn't even know or care I'm not there.

I'm off travelling again in 6 weeks time; I'll be gone for another year. I'm trying to get on with my life - I shall continue to call her and get regular updates from my sisters and I know that if I need to come back I shall. I feel guilty for leaving again, but I know that my usefulness in terms of her care is extremely limited.

Phew. So that's me and my mother. Hello everyone and thanks for letting me join you.

Mia
 

connie

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Mar 7, 2004
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Dear Mia, warm welcome to Talking Point (TP)

Again a sad story, and so many things you mention lots of our younger carers here will be able to relate to.

I am glad that your mum settled into her home, albeit not maybe in the way you had envisaged:eek:. If her friendshop with this gentleman helps her, then that is part of her new life.

She is young, and as you say healthy, so she may have many more years like this ahead of her. I think you are right in getting on with your life, and I am sure this is what she would want for you.

Thank you for sharing your story with us. Stay strong.

(My partner entered into permanent EMI care 2 years ago, aged 65)
 

BeckyJan

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Nov 28, 2005
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Hello and welcome:

Thank you for sharing although it is sad there is a need for it. I am 68 and I think gosh this could be me!!

I think you are right to get on with your life and I hope your sister/s are supporting you. Your poor Mum will adjust to her life in the home and God Bless if she has a boyfriend, why not?

that nothing abnormal was seen, though as it turns out this was a lie.

I have just highlighted your quote - my husband had scans and nothing was ever found to identify his illness. I do not think there was an intention to 'lie'. Unfortunately sometimes Alz. will only be diagnosed through mental testing. (that was the case with us anyway).

Good luck on your travels - keep us posted when you feel like it.

Love Jan
 

midwifemia

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Oct 7, 2008
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I do not think there was an intention to 'lie'. Unfortunately sometimes Alz. will only be diagnosed through mental testing. (that was the case with us anyway)

I know that Alzheimer's can be difficult to diagnose, and it was initially my belief that it was a mistake, but we found out a few months later, when a district nurse came to see mum and assess her at home, that the scan 2 years previously had in fact shown profound changes associated with the vascular dementia. Why the doctor had chosen not to tell us at that time we just don't know. I have worked in hospitals and know that sometimes doctors do things for reasons best known to themselves... but as I say it wouldn't have changed the course of anything and in some ways I'm glad we had another 2 years without knowing the prognosis.

:eek:
 

TinaT

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My husband was 64 when he went into an assessment ward and from there,on to permanent residential care so I can relate to your story. He is also the youngest in the home, very fit and otherwise healthy although again like your mum, he has aged in appearance by about 10 years.

Again,like yourselves my husband had the illness for a long time. We lived in Spain and I first took him to the doctor 2 years before he was finally diagnosed and was told that he had no signs on a scan that he had dementia. Looking back I too am quite glad that he wasn't diagnosed then. It gave us a couple of extra years where I could fool myself that his behaviour was not 'so bad'.

I'm so glad that you have decided to go off on your 'travels' once more. It is good to know that your mum is being kept safe and as well as possible in a good care home where she has settled well.

Send us lots of e mails about your travels please. I would love to know where you get to. It is futile to say don't worry about your mum. Of course you will and also grieve for what could have been. One day I'm sure there will be a cure but have little hope it will come in time to help us.

xxTinaT
 

Jase

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Sep 25, 2008
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Hi Mia

Just wanted to say hi and welcome to the site. I've only been on a couple of weeks but find it very supportive.
My mum has just been diagnosed with vascular dementia although the symptoms have been there for quite a long time and she has been treated for depression. My mum is 59 and I would say in the earlier to mid stages.
We had a CT scan done in August after me kicking up a BIG fuss with every consultant and secretary I could get hold of (I work in social work and I am based in a hospital so know how things work ;))
Follwoing this the consultant left a message on my phone saying- 'we have the results back from your mum's CT scan, nothing to worry about, I'll ring later' The later phone call actually informed me that mum had had 2 strokes, it then took me about 6 weeks to push them to confirm my dreaded thought- that mum has vascular dementia. NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT????????? Although I expected it it has hit me like a rail road truck!
Sorry for ranting on your thread!
I hope your travels go well, your mum would want you to carry on as normal.
I can empathise with you about your future family. My son is 2 now and idolises his grandma but it worries me how long we'll have her as she is now. Since the diagnosis I feel a little on hold, I wanted to do my midwifery next year but it's full time and mum needs me. I haven't considered any more children but things would be different now.
I can completely understand what you mean about the home setting too- our CPN has mentioned a daycare setting etc but the people are all a lot older and I don't want mum in that situation unless she cannot feel the difference- does that make sense? And I hope I haven't upset anyone with that comment.
I'll stop wittering now.
Lovely to meet you Mia and take care
Kirsty x
 

midwifemia

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Oct 7, 2008
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Thanks so much to everyone who has replied - I really appreciate your support.

Kirsty - I totally understand what you mean about it hitting you like a rail road truck, even if you were expecting it. I mean, mum's behaviour had been increasingly strange over the past few years, but we thought Alzheimer's had been ruled out and she was being treated for depression. Although at first the problem was really only with her speech - being unable to find the right word etc., which we justified with ageing and the fact that English is her second language - I remember distinctly the first time when she was unable to grasp an entire 'concept'. It happened when my sister was talking to her about her new video recorder and she said something about rewinding a tape, and mum didn't understand what she meant by rewind. Mum's always been the person you called up when you were out and had forgotten to tape something, so she was well versed with video recorders - the fact that she had absolutely no grasp of what rewinding meant all of a sudden was a huge new step, and I know that my sisters and I all felt like we were entering a whole new ball game. We now believe she'd had dementia for around 5 years before her diagnosis, and that it was brought on by a heavy blood loss/undiagnosed stroke following a botched hysterectomy by a doctor who was later struck off.

So even though we all half expected it, when the diagnosis finally came it hit hard. In fact it took a full day and a half to hit me - I was on call that night (as my username would suggest, I'm a midwife) and driving home from a night out with 2 friends who'd just happened to talk about their mums all night - quite unaware of what I had just learnt because I wasn't ready to tell them. As I was driving home, I suddenly became aware of this horrible noise and then, to my horror, realised it was coming from me. I began crying, quite hysterically, unable to breathe, unable to stop shaking, and I had to pull over. I tried to call the hospital and tell them I couldn't be on call that night but literally couldn't make myself understood because I was so hysterical. My friend on the other end of the phone realised (obviously) that something momentous was up and told me to switch my on call phone off immediately. I sat by the side of the road, less than a mile from my flat but unable to drive any further, for about an hour.

Although it's never been that bad ever again, the 'aftershocks' still hit me on occasion. It happens when you think of something that she used to say, but can't anymore, or something you'd have liked to do with her, but can't. The strangest thing can set it off - shortly after she went into the home I was in Canada and my sister emailed me to tell me she was clearing out her house ready for renting and was putting a number of things for sale on eBay, including her coffee table. I suddenly realised I couldn't possibly let her coffee table go - she'd had it all my life it has so many memories of so many evenings/Christmases/birthdays/playing - so I emailed my sister to ask if she could instead keep it for me until I returned. I thought she'd say she didn't have space and she was going to sell it anyway, but when I received an email saying that she had taken it back to her house and she would look after it for me...well. Hysterical crying all over again, even though I was at work in front of customers; this was supposedly good news! Incidentally I'm looking at that coffee table as I type. So many memories.

And also incidentally, it was the lovely man I worked with who looked after me and hugged me while I sobbed, with whom I fell in love, and who is accompanying me on my next year of travelling around New Zealand. I will try to keep you updated on events!:)
 

salacious

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May 25, 2008
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hi there mia

And welcome to TP.

Firstly i would like to say that this wonderful website has helped every single one of us at different times through this awful disease and im sure it will help you too.

i know exactly what you mean when you see how different your mom is with time. my mom was only 36 when she was diagnosed, she is now 44 and i barely recognise her, she cannot talk, she can only really laugh or cry. but when she laughs its music to my ears.

good luck with your trip, and dont feel guilty. your mother wouldnt want you to.

hope you keep in touch!

love
 

lesmisralbles

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Nov 23, 2007
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Hello Mia

For me, the worst thing of all is seeing my mother in this home, which is full of (and I apologise so much for this, I hope this does not offend anyone) proper old people with severe dementia, some of whom do nothing but sit and say 'lalalallala' all day; seeing her in this environment and knowing that she actually fits in there, well that's the worst thing.

By proper old people, do you mean anyone over the age of 80 ? or 75 ? or 70 ?. Cause I might as well give up now.
No one fits in there, NO ONE.
If any person sits in there and goes 'lalala', they are breathing, and alive. The alternative is death.

Many a person wants to see their 'lalala' Mum or Dad or husband or wife. As long as relatives are not suffering in body pain, and in the world they have created are happy, so what.

I do not mean to cause offence, beleive me.

But I will.:(
Enjoy your travels.
Barb X
 

midwifemia

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Oct 7, 2008
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Hi Barb,

You see, that's what I was afraid of. I really didn't mean to cause offence at that statement: what I meant by 'proper old people' is the image - okay, stereotype - that one has of 'old people' generated and perpetuated by the media and society at large. Now, I'm well aware that those people are all individuals and still (I hope) loved by their relatives and friends. I'm well aware that in their younger years all of the people in the home where my mother resides will have lived, loved, danced, been good and bad in equal measures and do not deserve to be lumped together in the phrase 'proper old people'. Whether they now say 'lalalala' repeatedly or not, it doesn't mean that they are any less of a person or deserve any less of a life.

What I was trying to get across was the cognitive dissonance I have experienced seeing my mother - who is only 68, still wears jeans and looked, until only a few short years ago, very young for her age - in that environment which, at first glance, appears to be full of the stereotypes that you imagine when you think of Alzheimer's. That is what I have found difficult to get my head round - knowing that there's a common theme, a link, between all of the people in that home, my own mother included, otherwise they wouldn't be there, needing care 24/7.

So don't give up now Barb! I hope I've explained myself a bit better. If not, well then again, I apologise for any offence I've caused.

:)
 

lesmisralbles

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So don't give up now Barb! I hope I've explained myself a bit better. If not, well then again, I apologise for any offence I've caused.

Hello

You did not cause me offence.

"So don't give up now Barb"

You do not know me. My hubby is 84;)

With the greatest respect.

Barb X