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mothers day or not,,,,,just dont know anymore

caring a

Registered User
Mar 1, 2014
132
hi all,,
this year i feel so s,,t,,,but i havnt as yet got anything for mum 4 mothers day,,,she loves flowers est and always spoilt her,,but now i fear if i remind her of her mum who she thinks is alive but pased 40 yrs ago...
i just dont know what to do,,,people come and say ohh mothers day tommorow has he got you something nice,,,,i feel so tight,,,,but they have no idea,,,at all...
every morning bout 10 its the same mixed up repetative rants,,,and tomorow will be so upsetting 4 her if she feels shes been denied going to see her mum,,,,,
any ideas,,,,i am bad not giving her her gifts est,,,,,
she thinks me as her brother,,,husband,,and sometimes son which am.....
lifes slipping by and you do get so down at times,,,,,
sorry to go on,,,,,,,,
 

Patricia Alice

Registered User
Mar 2, 2015
179
hi all,,
this year i feel so s,,t,,,but i havnt as yet got anything for mum 4 mothers day,,,she loves flowers est and always spoilt her,,but now i fear if i remind her of her mum who she thinks is alive but pased 40 yrs ago...
i just dont know what to do,,,people come and say ohh mothers day tommorow has he got you something nice,,,,i feel so tight,,,,but they have no idea,,,at all...
every morning bout 10 its the same mixed up repetative rants,,,and tomorow will be so upsetting 4 her if she feels shes been denied going to see her mum,,,,,
any ideas,,,,i am bad not giving her her gifts est,,,,,
she thinks me as her brother,,,husband,,and sometimes son which am.....
lifes slipping by and you do get so down at times,,,,,
sorry to go on,,,,,,,,
Hi,

We are also having the same problem. My mom thinks my sister is her mother and that my dad is still alive.

We have decided to treat it as Mother's day as this could be the last one we get, so we are going to take her out the care home for a few hours, even though she won't remember.

So this year it is about us, and making our hearts feel a bit lighter. To my mom it will just be another day.

If it makes you feel better, then do something.
 

Saffie

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Mar 26, 2011
22,514
Near Southampton
Just buy a lovely bunch of flowers.
You don't have to say it's because it's Mother's Day if you choose not to.
They will lift your spirits as well as, hopefully, her's.
 

Katrine

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Jan 20, 2011
2,837
England
Traditionally Mother's Day, or Mothering Sunday, was a day for absent working children to travel to visit their mother and reaffirm the family bond. The tradition continues, even though most people have the freedom to visit their mums whenever they want. We bring treats and pampering, in recognition of all the things our mothers have done for us.

I don't think it is particularly important to observe this tradition unless it gives pleasure to our mums. If it will upset and confuse your mum then it isn't a good idea. As Saffie says, you can still give her flowers without saying to her that it is a special occasion. "Just because I thought you'd like it" is sufficient explanation if asked.

Why do we bring flowers on Mother's Day? In earlier times, flowers at this time of year would have been hard to come by, which is why it used to be bunches of snowdrops and daffodils. The Christian Church, which adopted existing popular folk traditions, chose a Sunday at the very beginning of Spring to honour the mother of Jesus (and to honour earthly mothers). This must have been an adopted fertility festival, just at the point when the first ploughing of the year was due to begin.

My point is that observing Mother's Day is not a fixed and immovable obligation. The opportunity to celebrate motherhood derives from ancient fertility rites and has persisted over thousands of years, evolving into whatever celebrations seemed best for the times. You should feel NO guilt or inadequacy if you choose not to celebrate something called Mother's Day. Just get the flowers! She will enjoy them, and so will you. :)
 

Marie T

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Mar 14, 2015
1
Just buy a lovely bunch of flowers.
You don't have to say it's because it's Mother's Day if you choose not to.
They will lift your spirits as well as, hopefully, her's.

Don't be sorry, your loosening the most important person in your life ...! You will feel angry depressed lonely and a lot more ...! But never loose sight of the person she was ...? your Mum x. The only thing you can do is be there for her through this horrible jurney she is on x
 

Saffie

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Mar 26, 2011
22,514
Near Southampton
When I was a child we used to be given a small bunch of flowers to take home for our mothers from Sunday school on Mothering Sunday.
No cards nor any other presents then.
 

Kevinl

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Aug 24, 2013
4,764
Salford
The Christian Church, which adopted existing popular folk traditions, chose a Sunday at the very beginning of Spring to honour the mother of Jesus (and to honour earthly mothers). This must have been an adopted fertility festival, just at the point when the first ploughing of the year was due to begin.QUOTE]

According to Wiki "The celebration of Mother's Day began in the United States in the early 20th century; it is not related to the many celebrations of mothers and motherhood that have occurred throughout the world over thousands of years, such as the Greek cult to Cybele, the Roman festival of Hilaria, or the Christian Mothering Sunday celebration (originally a celebration of the mother church, not motherhood"
"The modern American holiday of Mother's Day was first celebrated in 1908, when Anna Jarvis held a memorial for her mother in Grafton, West Virginia. Her campaign to make "Mother's Day" a recognized holiday in the United States began in 1905"
Mothers' day is an American invention that we've imported it's nothing to do with god, the church may try and claim it same way it calls the winter solstice Christmas.

Anyway caring a, just buy her some flowers or some chocolates and let her enjoy the day, no point in anticipating a problem that may not happen.
K
 

canary

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Feb 25, 2014
13,370
South coast
Kevin - you googled the wrong thing Im afraid. Mothers Day is indeed a secular thing and came from US, but Mothering Sunday came first
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothering_Sunday

I agree, you dont have to say anything, just give her some flowers - I am sure she will be pleased even if she doesnt know why you have given them to her.
 

Witzend

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Aug 29, 2007
4,291
SW London
When I was a child we used to be given a small bunch of flowers to take home for our mothers from Sunday school on Mothering Sunday.
No cards nor any other presents then.
Me too. I remember being given a little bunch of violets to take home in the early 50s.
 

Kevinl

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Aug 24, 2013
4,764
Salford
Kevin - you googled the wrong thing Im afraid. Mothers Day is indeed a secular thing and came from US, but Mothering Sunday came first
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothering_Sunday.
I googled Mothers' Day (which is what the thread is about, it's tomorrow and as you say secular and as such is open to people of any or no religion it is nothing to do with Jesus and that was the comment I was correcting.
There is a Christian festival called Mothering Sunday which was "originally a celebration of the mother church, not motherhood" (Wiki) so was nothing to do with being a Mother the Mother was the Mother church so the description "to honour the mother of Jesus" as was said is wholly inaccurate. It is secular with a similar name to a completely different Christian tradition.
As I say it is open to people of all faiths to celebrate if they see fit and should not be claimed as Christian when it isn't as this may exclude those of other faiths either accidentally or by design.
K
 

Katrine

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Jan 20, 2011
2,837
England
I was being corrected, was I? By a gleaning from Wikipedia. :D In the UK Mother's Day is a non-religious annual event but it's held on Mothering Sunday. The evolution to a non-Christian, and therefore more inclusive, Mother's Day just shows that we still want to celebrate the nurturing role of mothers. BTW, don't be fooled by 'Mother Church' not being about women. It was all part of providing both a female and a male identity to the Christian God. Without Mother Church, the Virgin Mary, and various female saints the peasantry would have looked more to paganism to provide the 'mother' aspect to their beliefs.

Anyhoo! Mother's Day, and any other nationally celebrated day, can be a pleasure or a pain, depending on your circumstances. I wish people didn't feel compelled to follow where the gift and greetings card industry leads them. Don't get me started on Christmas.:rolleyes:
 
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Allypally52

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Mar 11, 2014
78
I totally agree that a lovely bunch of flowers as a symbolic 'thank you' is a fine idea. There's no law against love!
(PS Having lived in Australia for several years I discovered that, like the USA, Mother's Day is celebrated in May, not the pre-Easter UK Mothering Sunday.)
 

garnuft

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Sep 7, 2012
6,585
Mothers Day. Mothering Sunday. Me mam told me that in 1949 when she had suffered a still birth of her first child, a week later she went to visit her MIL (me Nana, she was lovely but a very superstitious spiritualist Christian) ...
Anyway... She went to see her, walked two miles. Needing company, fresh air and cheering up after her traumatic experience...
And me Nana wouldn't let her in the house!
She hadn't been churched.

Mothers eh?

Worth their weight in gold.

Except if they see gremlins. :)




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sleepless

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Feb 19, 2010
3,223
The Sweet North
When I was a girl, my sisters and I would make a home-made card for our mam.
But the real treat for her was breakfast in bed! Poor mam, she wasn't allowed to get up until she had eaten the (slightly burnt) toast and (slightly undercooked) boiled egg, and drunk her cup of tea.
I think she appreciated the thought......

Can I just send kind thoughts to all of you for whom Mothers' Day is a painful reminder of lost loved ones, and hope there are happy memories to ease the loss.

sleepless x
 

alwaysfretting

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Jan 1, 2015
41
I find mothers day hard going. Haven't got children of my own and mum has Alzheimer's. People can be quite insensitive about not realising it can be a difficult day for lots of reasons. I'm with mum at the weekends and gave her daffs this morning but didn't give a reason.
 

Lisa74

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May 27, 2011
276
I think we are going to try not to mention that it is Mothering Sunday for the same reason!

My Gran thinks her Mum lives next door and that we are very cruelly preventing her from visiting (her Mum lived in Australia and died 50 years ago).

The plan is to give Granny a few little presents late in the evening or just before bed so that she doesn't have too much time to think about things and we won't mention what day it is!
 

Tin

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May 18, 2014
4,824
UK
Mothers day was last Saturday when my brother visited for the day and it will be again when my sister visits next week but not today.
 

Perdita

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Jun 22, 2009
219
Suffolk, Uk
Me too. I remember being given a little bunch of violets to take home in the early 50s.
Me too- in the sixties.

Just laughing with mum that my brother bought her chocs and flowers while I only managed to buy her something to wash her bum with:eek: 'Least it's useful' she says:)
 

caring a

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Mar 1, 2014
132
well ive done nothing as planned,,,no flowers/cards or anything,,,,,
opened box of toffees but no mention of the m,,d word,,
alls gone great,,shes had a lovely day with very little confusion at all,,,fingers crosssed...
just asked where her mum was,,to which i told her having a nap i think,,,which i guess is kinda true,,,,,,,so said ahh and that was that,,
if ida done mothers day,,,would have been hell and sadness all day wanting her mum,,
and as i care for mum 24/7,,,i guess its mothers day every day here,,,,
love to you all