Improving Sleep With 4, 7 and 8,

Discussion in 'Health and wellbeing' started by Grey Lad, Aug 23, 2015.

  1. Grey Lad

    Grey Lad Registered User

    Sep 12, 2014
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    Just caught up on newspapers passed over by neighbour. Read of an interesting technique to help you get to sleep. Breathe in through the nose counting to 4. hold for count of 7 and breathe out through the nose counting to 8. I'll give it a try tonight when I wake at dawn and see if it helps me get back to sleep.
     
  2. marionq

    marionq Registered User

    Apr 24, 2013
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    Even if it doesn't put you to sleep it is a good exercise for your lungs. Good night, sleep tight, don't let the bugs bite! My Mum used to say that to me every night along with "This night I lay me down to sleep, I pray the Lord my soul to keep. If I should die before I wake, I pray the Lord my soul to take"!

    I wonder if parents were trying to frighten us to death!
     
  3. Grey Lad

    Grey Lad Registered User

    Sep 12, 2014
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    Maureen and I always say night night ...........bite. I am just going to try the counting to try to stay in bed longer in the morning.
     
  4. Dustycat

    Dustycat Registered User

    Jul 14, 2014
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    I've tried this technique but couldn't get away with it. I found counting kept me awake! X
     
  5. Grannie G

    Grannie G Volunteer Moderator

    Apr 3, 2006
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    It`s a form of meditation, concentrating on the breath.
     
  6. Margarita

    Margarita Registered User

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  7. Grey Lad

    Grey Lad Registered User

    Sep 12, 2014
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  8. Long-Suffering

    Long-Suffering Registered User

    Jul 6, 2015
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    This is a simplified variation of a classic yoga breathing technique called anuloma viloma pranayama. Nowadays, I don't do much yoga, but I still use the breathing techniques to relax and it's also VERY useful if you have a panic attack. Check out this link and video:

    http://www.vedanectar.com/pose/nadi-shodhan-or-anuloma-viloma-psychic-network-purification

    LS
     
  9. Grey Lad

    Grey Lad Registered User

    Sep 12, 2014
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    Thanks L S. Sorting out early morning wakening is a high priority for me and it will be done.
     
  10. CollegeGirl

    CollegeGirl Registered User

    Jan 19, 2011
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    When I was little, mam would say to me when going to bed 'night night, sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite. If they do, squeeze 'em tight and they won't come back tomorrow night!'

    Unfortunately I can't get away with breathing techniques such as this. As soon as I start concentrating on my breathing I start to hyperventilate! I just can't do it. I did give this one a try last night - but how do you breath out for a count of 8 when you've only breathed in for a count of 4 :confused:
     
  11. Grannie G

    Grannie G Volunteer Moderator

    Apr 3, 2006
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    You don`t start with this CG.

    First you lie comfortably, preferably on your back with all limbs as relaxed as possible , and listen to your breathing. Just listening to your breathing , picturing your in breaths circulating your body and your out breaths releasing all impurities will help you relax.

    You should feel your breathing slowing down and this is when you can start to count.

    Don`t force anything for now. Just count what is natural. If you force you will end up gasping and that won`t help at all.
     
  12. stanleypj

    stanleypj Registered User

    Dec 8, 2011
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    This isn't the first time that it's been mentioned on TP. I think Mojo was the one who noted it.

    I use my mantra which I was given back in the day when the Maharishi was all the rage. I was initiated at the instigation of a girl friend. I never found that it helped me to meditate but it does send me to sleep so my money wasn't wasted.:)
     
  13. EdenDesjardins

    EdenDesjardins Registered User

    May 25, 2015
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    Thank you for sharing this. I tried doing it myself but I don't seem to have the attention span anymore.
     
  14. Leswi

    Leswi Registered User

    Jul 13, 2014
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    It does take time to get used to this conscious breathing, probably seems a bit silly at first. As somebody else mentioned it is incorporated into yoga as keeping oxygen in the body longer by breath holding helps muscles to relax. Even if you don't manage to sleep you would probably relax if you persevere with the technique.
     
  15. bemused1

    bemused1 Registered User

    Mar 4, 2012
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    So your youth wand' t wasted Stanley. How much more simple was life back in those days!

    I must get off my backside and get hubs breakfast before he leaves home.
     
  16. Grey Lad

    Grey Lad Registered User

    Sep 12, 2014
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    Silly me been struggling to stay asleep for very long and had forgotten this Thread. Must try again tonight and concentrate on my breathing. Thanks for posting here Lewsi.
     
  17. stanleypj

    stanleypj Registered User

    Dec 8, 2011
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    Yes I suppose. Or maybe it was just that we were young?

    At the time I shared a flat with two friends. One of them, Ken, refused to have anything to do with TM (transcendental meditation). The other friend was often visited by his girlfriend. After we got initiated he used to put a notice on his door 'Meditation in progress. Do not disturb.' You may imagine what Ken made of this.:D

    But the believing friend actually became quite an important figure in the movement later on. So maybe they were actually meditating.
     
  18. bemused1

    bemused1 Registered User

    Mar 4, 2012
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    That made me smile Stanley. Yes we were young but I don't envy today's young one little bit.
     

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