Implications of moving Mum into a Care Home

Unasmum

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Hi. I will try and keep this short but I am seeking advice on the implications of placing my mother in a Care Home. I have received much sound advice from this forum since she was diagnosed and have my fingers crossed again.
Mum is 89 with mid stage Alzheimer's, she lives alone but is very vulnerable e.g. leaving taps running and flooding kitchen, leaving pans on hob, not locking her doors at night, over/under eating, giving money to strangers- I know you all understand. Also, she is very lonely and prone to brooding when alone, my father died nearly 40 years ago and she is reliving the week of his death over and over and grieving for him anew everytime. There is a huge amount of support locally for people with dementia but she won't mix with 'old' people, in fact she won't go out unless myself, sister or brother take her - she gets disorientated so only feels safe with us.
Anyway, to the point; my brother has a new job abroad; my daughters have asked me if I can help them with some regular childcare- which I want to do - and my sister is not well. As my Mum is so lonely we think a Care Home is her best option. If we sell her house we can fund care for a few years, but can anyone alert me to any implications we should be aware of in making this decision. Thank you for reading.
 

Bod

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Check what the situation will be when her money reaches less than £23,500.
Make sure the Home is able to care for ALL aspects of Dementia, its not unknown for some homes to evict sufferers when the going gets difficult.

Bod
 

Palerider

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The fact sheets @Grannie G has posted are good and I agree with @Bod. You do need to ask some difficult questions of the care home, such as how they would manage challenging/aggressive behaviour etc. Mum went into emergency respite and I didn't have time to check these things out, so now she is being moved as the CH gave notice -which is fine as they can't provide nursing EMI level care, but it would have been good to know this before placing her there in the first place :rolleyes:. Some homes have residential and EMI so worth checking these out and finding somewhere that provides both as aggression if residential care can't cope will likely mean EMI care -but some homes will try to accomodate and some won't.
 

Rosettastone57

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Hi. I will try and keep this short but I am seeking advice on the implications of placing my mother in a Care Home. I have received much sound advice from this forum since she was diagnosed and have my fingers crossed again.
Mum is 89 with mid stage Alzheimer's, she lives alone but is very vulnerable e.g. leaving taps running and flooding kitchen, leaving pans on hob, not locking her doors at night, over/under eating, giving money to strangers- I know you all understand. Also, she is very lonely and prone to brooding when alone, my father died nearly 40 years ago and she is reliving the week of his death over and over and grieving for him anew everytime. There is a huge amount of support locally for people with dementia but she won't mix with 'old' people, in fact she won't go out unless myself, sister or brother take her - she gets disorientated so only feels safe with us.
Anyway, to the point; my brother has a new job abroad; my daughters have asked me if I can help them with some regular childcare- which I want to do - and my sister is not well. As my Mum is so lonely we think a Care Home is her best option. If we sell her house we can fund care for a few years, but can anyone alert me to any implications we should be aware of in making this decision. Thank you for reading.

Find out what happens when the money runs out. My mother-in-law went into care in 2018 and I asked if she would have to be moved out when her savings ran out in 4 years time. The care home said no, but in fact I suspect they might have expected a third party top up. As it happened this situation never arose, as my mother-in-law passed away quite quickly.
 

anxious annie

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Hi Unasmum
It sounds like your mum would benefit from being around other people as she is lonely. my sister and I moved mum into care as she was getting increasingly unsafe and lonely at home by herself most of the time, even though she had company at day care 4 days a week. She had always said she din't want to go into care, but we have been amazed at how well she has settled and is so enjoying the activities on offer.
Mum is self funding ( we are just starting the process of selling her house as savings won't last long.) The home asked that mum could fund for 2 years , and didn't mention any 3rd party top up once mum's money runs out. Mum should be able to fund for 5 /6 years so we are hoping that by this time the LA wouldn't move her to another cheaper home ( or the home will accept their rate) as we would argue that mum is settled and not in her best interest to move and confuse her.
I hope you get things sorted out for your mum and you and your family.
 

Unasmum

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Thank you everyone. I know the Care Home we have in mind well. Mum has been in for respite a couple of times and been comfortable there, so I am hopeful that she will settle. I know that it will be a wrench for her, leaving her home but I believe that she will be happier. They also have a lovely specialised dementia unit for when she gets worse. Annie, it sounds like our situations are very similar; we reckon about 5/6 years with the house sold. I haven't had much joy on finding out what happens when the money runs out, we live in one of the biggest counties and Social Services are seriously stretched, they are struggling to support the most in need, so the minute they realise you are self funding they really don't want to know. I guess we might just have to risk it.
 

anxious annie

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Hi Unasmum
yes, we're doing the same and risking the funding. A lot can happen in the time and we are going with what suits mum at the moment.We are hoping they wouldn't move her ( but having said that we don't know if mum's needs would change and that would necessitate a move.)
 

happisoo

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Check what the situation will be when her money reaches less than £23,500.
Make sure the Home is able to care for ALL aspects of Dementia, its not unknown for some homes to evict sufferers when the going gets difficult.

Bod
Quite agree; double check what amount of dementia care training they have; I/my mum was misled and we had bad time. Also it took them ages to complete her care plan. We had good social worker but even he didn’t push hard enough for one quick enough. Good luck, for what it’s worth, it sounds like you are doing the right thing, hard as it feels. Xx
 

Unasmum

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Thanks again to everyone for your helpful replies. I booked my Mum into the chosen Care Home for a month, so that we could see how she gets on. I took a step back for 10 days so that I could help my daughters with some issues and see some friends. As it was, I was on edge for 3 days waiting for the phone to ring but gradually relaxed and smiled. My friends said that they hadn't seen me smile for months.
After 10 days I went to see her, she was absolutely raging. She had a notebook full of the injustices I had committed against her and demanded I took her home immediately. I do sympathise with her, she is a very independent woman with late mid stage Alzheimer's but she is not safe living on her own and refuses to have anyone other than family in her house. She told me it was my duty to look after her and that I should put her needs before those of my daughters. I specifically asked her if she thought I should tell my daughters that I couldn't help them because I have to look after her and she said yes.
I came home, went to bed and couldn't get out for 2 days. I just couldn't face the world. I am up today because I promised to go back to see her but I have just brought my breakfast back up (sorry if that is too much information).
What on earth should I do.
 

Sarasa

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Oh @Unasmum mum. That sounds a lot like my mother when I moved her into care. Do you have to go today, it sounds like it didn’t do either of you any good. Have you spoken to the Carers about how she is settling in? She may well be fine when you are not there. What about her complaints, do you think any of them are justified, if so they may need to tweak how they approach her.
My mother was always a tough woman, who usually got her way by charm. A lot of the charm has disappeared, but she is still determined to get her own way, even when that isn’t sensible. I think you just have to try and compartmentalise things, know your mother is safe, and get on with getting your life back. You are important too
 
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canary

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Unfortunately, people with dementia (especially once they reach the stage of needing a care home) find their world narrows and narrows until all they can see is their own needs wants and desires. My mum wanted me to give up work, leave my husband and go and look after her. She could not see that this was entirely unreasonable. Needles to say, it didnt happen.