Thank you Fizzie I think there are a lot of voices out there which are not being heard. I spoke to a client, who is a psychiatrc nurse, and he tells me often as not, those with dementia are more sane than the rest of us, and should never be dismissed. He told me that it so easy to think someone is ranting, if you do not have the time to sit with them long enough. He said where he works, they often spend hours with inpatients who have been classed as not having mental capacity, only to find that familiarity and friendliness brings out the best. He says he adores his job because he really gets to have a good chat with his patients. - He is very scepticle of these assessments!