1. TinaT

    TinaT Registered User

    Sep 27, 2006
    7,095
    Bolton
    I forgot to say that Ken's new rise and recline chair arrived this afternoon. We sat him in it and fiddled about with the various up/down buttons for a while. Poor Ken, us trying to put his footrest up and us not realising that we were pressing the button for the back of the chair. He was almost horizontal at one point before we noticed!


    I don't think for a minute he realised he had a new chair and took our antics with the buttons as just one more thing which happened to him without him knowing why.

    It proved to be a wonderful boon when it came time for toileting. Normally two carers have to heave him out of a chair and into a wheelchair. Today we pressed a button and he rose up almost to standing without any effort on the carer's part or the discomfort to Ken of being pushed and pulled around.

    xxTinaT
     
  2. jenniferpa

    jenniferpa Volunteer Moderator

    Jun 27, 2006
    39,439
    Very glad to hear about the chair, Tina. It's excellent when technology lives up to expectations and makes life easier (not that it always does...).
     
  3. ellejay

    ellejay Registered User

    Jan 28, 2011
    4,014
    Essex
    That's great, you must be so pleased. :)

    Lin x
     
  4. TinaT

    TinaT Registered User

    Sep 27, 2006
    7,095
    Bolton
    Yes, I'm very, very pleased I bought it. The first thing my mother said when I told her I'd got a new chair for Ken was - 'You mustn't let anyone else sit in it'. Good old mother - always looking on the bright side of life. I told her that anyone could sit in it as long as Ken had it when he needed it.

    Thank God they have not yet resorted to using a hoist for him. I think that piece of modern technology would frighten him greatly.

    xxTinaT
     
  5. Grannie G

    Grannie G Volunteer Moderator

    Apr 3, 2006
    69,598
    Kent
    Hello Tina

    It`s good to hear Ken is still able to weight bear but please don`t be too worried about possible potential use of a hoist. Dhiren`s carers talk him through their use of it and he sits there like the cat with the cream.
     
  6. TinaT

    TinaT Registered User

    Sep 27, 2006
    7,095
    Bolton
    Thanks for the post Sylvia and your reassurances. I'm pretty sure, with all the explaining in the world, Ken would be very frightened and panic himself into a frenzy. I wish it was different but I fear he would not tolerate it so I bless every day we can go without using the hoist.

    The carers still try to get him to weight bear to maintain some movement in his legs, and at times he can actually shuffle a few steps but most of the time the carers are actually dragging him. It is very, very painful for me to watch but I do understand why they do it.

    xxTinaT
     
  7. jenniferpa

    jenniferpa Volunteer Moderator

    Jun 27, 2006
    39,439
    Tina - when you've had the chair for a while and assuming it's still working out OK (or of course, come to think of it, even if it's not) it might be a good idea to post a review of it in the Resources forum. I know a lot of people end up trying to find these things and personal experience counts for a lot.
     
  8. TinaT

    TinaT Registered User

    Sep 27, 2006
    7,095
    Bolton
    I'll do that Jennifer and I'll also ask the carers in a few weeks what they think of the chair, whether it has helped them etc.,

    xxTinaT
     
  9. JPG1

    JPG1 Account Closed

    Jul 16, 2008
    3,396
    Tina,

    This link is to a story that isn't directly connected with the situation you're involved with.

    It's just yet another example of what happens when a local authority engages in contracts which may be in the best interests of the LA's pot-of-money - but not necessarily in the best interests of the residents a LA places in private care. A care home, in this case, run by one of the big - and much loved by some! - care providers.

    http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9231225.Care_home_threatened_with_closure_by_watchdog/
     
  10. bigtom

    bigtom Registered User

    Sep 19, 2009
    625
    bolton lancs
    Tina, just caught up with this thread, So good you can speak at the council meeting on the 19th i hope to be there to support you, I was so good to meet John,(beechmount) angie, and kas, on wedensday i was sorry i could not join you in Yates"s but as you know i had other things to do.And after the meeting on Tuesday the council know they will not be walking over anyone about the future of the homes. So well done Tina.
     
  11. jimbo 111

    jimbo 111 Registered User

    Jan 23, 2009
    5,082
    North Bucks
    Hello Tina following on from my post yesterday
    have you beento a full council meeting before ?????

    many members of the public leave feeling disgusted at the lack of debate , and how some items are just 'nodded through
    This is usualy because the item has been debated at length in committee,no opposition has been noted ,and it saves time in a full agenda
    I f you have never been to a full Council meeting it maybe worth going to the one prior to your meeting to get a feel of the procedure
    If that is not possible you should be able to get copies of previous agendas

    Quote from Bolton Council Information :-

    All copies of agendas and reports(subject to access to information requirements relating to confidential items) for meetings of the Executive and Executive Members, Committees and Area Forums are available at the One Stop Shop, which is located on the Ground Floor, Bolton Town Hall, BL1 1RU or can be accessed via the Committee Management Information System.



    Minutes of the meetings will be available within a reasonable time following the meeting and contact should be made with Democratic Services on 331039 or by accessing via the Committee Management Information System .

    jimbo 111
     
  12. JPG1

    JPG1 Account Closed

    Jul 16, 2008
    3,396
    #432 JPG1, Sep 3, 2011
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2011
    Tina,

    Jimbo's post has just reminded me - thanks, Jimbo:) - that I had already looked for agendas/minutes/meetings for your Council.

    A link for you:

    http://www.democracy.bolton.gov.uk/cmiswebpublic/Default.aspx

    It's not got the best of layouts, so the easiest way to find the one I'm wanting you to read is to search for the words order paper - there are only two that appear, and one is the 'Order of Business' for 31.08.2001 meeting of the Council. Click on order paper and it opens as a word doc - but a couple of mentions of care homes. (Including one question about a care home in the area that has problems - not Ken's care home.)

    No minutes available yet - but they may appear next week. And the agenda for the October 19 meeting should also appear there - eventually.

    By the way, if you scroll as far as the Application to Renew a Licence for a Sex Shop - you've gone too far! (If the link doesn't pull that one up for you, change the drop-down box at the top right to show items from the previous 90 days.)
     
  13. Tender Face

    Tender Face Account Closed

    Mar 14, 2006
    5,379
    NW England
    Hi Tina – great news on the chair! :) And great news on the Council Meeting. :) Took a long time scrutinizing that petition then didn’t they?????:rolleyes:

    I thought you were having a week off????? :cool::D

    God bless you .... let me know whatever I can do .... How much room in the public gallery for the Council meeting? You might have to put me in charge of ‘drawing lots’ for places?????? :D

    Respect and love, Kaz, x
     
  14. jimbo 111

    jimbo 111 Registered User

    Jan 23, 2009
    5,082
    North Bucks
    Hello Tina
    Another thought in hindsight
    Council decisions are normally taken by a vote ,showing of hands
    ( unless they use one of those newfangled button devices)
    The point I wanted to mention is
    Provided on the requisition of any Member BEFORE the vote is taken
    and Supported by FIVE other memberswho signify their support by rising from their seats
    The VOTING must be by ROLL CALL and not by show of hands
    and will be recorded to show how each member Voted

    Your cause is a very emotive subject
    Members will be aware of the support you have in so many areas of the city
    In my experience (many years ago ) members were often reluctant to know that their constituents were aware on how they voted on touchy subjects , and it could sway the way they voted , particularly if the matter was subject to a proposed amendment that was more favourable than the original motion

    The point I am trying to make ,if you become aware before your meeting that it could be a close call , persuading enough members to stand for a roll call vote could be to your advantage
    My knowledge is rather out of date (1980's)
    and new Local Gov Acts may have superceded that quoted above
    but I see no reason why this will have been deleted
    Just a point you may keep in the back of your mind

    Best wishes
    jimbo 111

    Ps Just a thought , the wizard (JPG1) may be able to ferret out for you any amendments to the above
    J
     
  15. TinaT

    TinaT Registered User

    Sep 27, 2006
    7,095
    Bolton
    Just a quick reply until I have absorbed all the most valuable information from JPG1 and Jimbo and the wonderful encouragement from Tinker Face!

    How can I fail with such splended support as you people supply. I have to say tears are welling up as I write.

    I'm so very, very grateful and so thankful to have you good, good people helping me.

    xxTinaT
     
  16. Skye

    Skye Registered User

    Aug 29, 2006
    17,000
    SW Scotland
    Tina, you know I'm behind you all the way, aven though I'm no practical help. It's wonderful that so many people are able to help you, I'm sure that the advice and info is invaluable, and then there's your team of wonderful backing singers.

    What a lot you've all achieved.

    Lang may yer lum reek.:D

    xxxxx
     
  17. TinaT

    TinaT Registered User

    Sep 27, 2006
    7,095
    Bolton
    and then there's your wonderful team of 'backing' singers


    Yep we seem to be all 'singing in tune' Hazel and that's a truely fantastic feeling

    I think you must be also sneaking sly looks at X factor as you type Hazel! Oh the power of the 'box'.

    xxTinaT
     
  18. jimbo 111

    jimbo 111 Registered User

    Jan 23, 2009
    5,082
    North Bucks
     
  19. TinaT

    TinaT Registered User

    Sep 27, 2006
    7,095
    Bolton
    Oh Jimbo - we've put you to a lot of trouble for nothing! You were quite right on your first guess. Tinker Face is indeed our very own Tender Face - I think Angela (a.k.a. Angi babe) was the first to rename her.

    Your background knowledge of Local Authorities has stood me in such good stead.

    xxTinaT
     
  20. Tender Face

    Tender Face Account Closed

    Mar 14, 2006
    5,379
    NW England
    Hi Jimbo – it’s ME – Tender Face – oh actually that was mum :rolleyes: – so I rather like Tinker Face :) – (JPG1 the culprit, I believe) only I can’t change my username. Well, I could – but they’d still spot me!!!!!;):p:D

    Did someone mention singing? I am renowned for it!!!! :) (Someone once mentioned I was so good it was akin to howling at the moon – I thought that was grossly unfair????:() In fact, it was my Plan B if the council vote wasn’t going the right way for Tina – it was my secret weapon from the public gallery to get them to change their votes!!!!!

    Blown my cover now!!!!!:p

    Kaz, (Tender Face, Tinker Face, ‘Oi You’ – I answer to most things!;))
     

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