Henry from Hospital to Care Home

kazza73

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Loo, the fact the clothes remain unlabeled is just not good enough. They have had plenty time to get labals printed and applied. When visiting mum yesterday I checked her drawers and wardrobe to see if she had plenty clothes. Every single thing has labels printed with her name and the unit name (they use the hopsital central laundry) most of her socks seem to have returned although there was one odd one on the shelf (I'm assuming it has been left out awaiting the partner being found).

I was discussing the clothes situation with a friend whose mum is in a care home. She was telling me one day she arrived for visiting and another woman was wearing one of her mum's dresses! Needless to say she complained and received an apology and it never happened again.

I hope the meeting on Monday goes well. It's a shame the approachable nurse from shift A wont be there but will be interesting to hear what the young nurse from shift B has to say.

Sorry to hear Henry seems to be stiffening up. It is so hard to watch our loved ones going through all this. I am a great believer in reading up and gaining knowledge about things but sometimes I think it makes it harder as I am now so well informed about the stages of dementia that every time I see a change in mum my brain sort of ticks things off and we're running out of things left on the list:(

Sending love to you, Loo. You are very often in my thoughts.

K xx
 

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Hi Loopiloo,

I'm sorry I'm only just joining your thread so late. The missing clothing is a problem I know. Perhaps you can get some labels made and sew them on yourself. I never let a new article of clothing go in unless I have sewn Ken's name in it. I also put blobs of bright coloured nail polish on the sides of all his shoes, slippers and the arms of his glasses. However he has been without glasses for 4 weeks now as the two pairs he had are both now lost. They've disappeared into the big black hole at the care home!

I remember when Ken was on an assessment unit at the hospital and had to share a bedroom with another resident, I arrived to take Ken out into the gardens and couldn't because the other resident had been taken out in Ken's shoes and his coat.

I have never had this happen since Ken has been in his present nursing home although the missing glasses are a constant problem. He takes them off and they can quite literally be found anywhere in the building..

xxTinaT


xxTinaT
 

Loopiloo

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Dear Saffie

Asked Y yesterday if she could answer the questions and she said that " this is his home now" "we do this". I said "I know this, that's why I'm asking you to answer the questions." She said she would have to show it to the manager whenshe was in.
Oh dear, saying that to a new resident's wife is not very welcoming. Apart from nursing care what about the 'caring', with a small 'c', and including spouses/family in that?

I would have felt like handing her the AA forms and saying "then you can do this".

When it was decided Henry had to go into care I never realized the bureaucracy involved and what a stressful nightmare it is. Yours even more so with the Deputyship, the costs involved, and the sale of the chalet. Glad I sold the caravan two years ago as it was jointly owned and had I waited until now that could have caused problems. I'm still uneasy about the bank even although POA was supposedly sorted out. They did not seem to have a good understanding of it. Still waiting for the social services financial assessor to contact me, as my SW said she would, concerning all pertaining to Henry's contribution to the care home fees. I shall also be relieved when I know exactly what is what.

I was so pleased to read on your thread that Dave is now in the lounge and do hope it makes a difference to him, and to you. How was he when you visited today?

Much love
Loo xx
 

Loopiloo

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Hi Tina

Initially I was told several times the care home would label the clothes. However I did buy labels and more recently have labelled everything taken it - but they have still disappeared.

I wonder if the labels are a problem... wanting to do it a.s.a.p. I ordered the type you tag on with a little plastic thing, with his name and room number printed. I really don't know how durable they may be compared with sew on - or iron on - labels. Also with the latter you see the name and room number at a glance. With the tag on type I have the label is folded over and then tagged on, so the first name is most apparent and you just need to turn the label to see the surname and room number. Easily done, but.... ??

I intend taking them to the care home to label what is not as easy to do that in Henry's room than iron on ones would be, and quicker (before anything else goes astray) than sewing them on at the care home.

But I'm going to order more labels online this weekend, perhaps I should get the sew on ones. Anyone know how they compare with the iron on labels?

Does anyone use the plastic tag ones I bought? As I say, I wonder how durable they are... ?

Henry's glasses diappeared in the Community hospital, (as did his bottom dentures when bed bound in the acute hospital). I had our usual optician test him for new ones. Then was later told the hospital usually had another optician come in and that he could inscribe the name on the arms of the glasses. Too late by then. I wrapped a label around Henry's new glasses with his name on it, but notice this is now a bit worn.

The Community hospital put labels inside Heny's slippers and shoes - plus another pair of slippers not his - but I'll have to label his jacket and hat - if he ever does go out in a wheelchair. He was out once locally, a short outing to the local nature reserve, but has missed out on some longer outings because he would have been out when his insulin injection was due.

Thanks Tina.

Loo xx
 

Saffie

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Hi Loo. I've just written on my thread about the disappointing visit to Dave this afternoon. suffice it to say, i'm not happy at all.

I'm also a bit annoyed that, despite my leaving a note in the room asking that the daily newspaper not be removed as I wanted to read it the following day, it was again missing. I pay for it so it seems only fair that I should at least have a chance to read it after Dave! I doubt he turns over more than a page or two but I thought it would at least be someone visiting his room.

Re your labels, Loo. I use iron on tapes but am not sure how well they will cope with the home laundry. I hate sewing and, I confess, even find it hard to thread the needle nowadays so will probably order more iron-on ones on-line. Unless i hear different on your thread, of course!

I'm going to have to put something around the arms of Dave's glasses as they keep slipping down his nose. I must ask about the optician's visit too as he is long overdue a sight test.

Are you visiting today I wonder. It looks like I will be continuing with daily visits for the forseeable future as I can't see Dave ever settling. He was very unhappy today. I wish I could help him but really don't know how.
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Loopiloo

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Dear Nan

Thanks for following my thread... with its over long posts from me. :(:eek:

Yes it is irritating and frustrating when clothes go amissing. Henry has a zip up heavy navy cardigan, a present from our daughter, I would not like it to be lost and may bring it home as he would not need it until autumn/winter. By then hopefully the lost clothes problem will be resolved.

Most interesting to read the comparisions between Brian's two homes. If one could get it right why not the other. I remember the home of my second choice Care Commision Report had a lot of complaints from relatives about clothes being lost despite labels, but not a mention of such a problem in Henry's care home. Although of course not every Report mentions all problems.

Henry has once been dressed in someone else's shirt and sweater. This happened more often in the Community hospital, and he does have I think four items in his wardrobe labelled by them but not his. Oh, five! I found a very large pair of navy Y-front underpants in his drawer yesterday! Have not seen them in the drawer before!

Yes the declines do get to you. Although Henry can't stand and move about unaided, forgets the zimmer and totters, using it he had become quicker on his feet. But now a noticable decline. He does wander a lot along the corridors and down to the hall with the Quiet Area with a large window, and if he becomes unable to do that it will badly frustrate him.

Hoping it was just an off day, he wasn't his usual self. Struggled to get up from his chair which he usually manages well using the chair arms then gripping the zimmer. He needed the help of a care assistant. But we know the abilities will gradually - or rapidly - be lost.

I also noticed last time I had a meal with him that he is holding his cutlery in an odd way, and have seen a tremour in one hand, now the other. I didn't say anything, as long as he can still manage the cutlery..

Thanks for your kind words, Nan. It is less me doing too much and more me losing the ability to do what this time last year I could do, even with a struggle or restricted energy. Rather shocked by it of late.

With my love
Loo xx
 

Loopiloo

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Dear Saffie

I have been on your thread, and I know you are not happy. Wish I could say something encouraging, comforting... I do feel for you, and empathise.

I also have a newspaper problem. After Henry had been in the care home about a week, one day I visited he was sitting at the table with a newpaper in front of him, and I thought good if he is reading it, or looking through it, and commented. He didn't like this newspaper, all bits and pieces he said.

Then a male carer came over and asked if he should order Henry a newspaper as he had looked at this one the last two mornings. I said okay but not this one and told him the one Henry likes - or used to like. Before hospital he faithfully did go out for his newspaper every day but then would just flick through it. Then latterly laid it on his table without looking at it, although would deny this.

The newspaper never materialized. Although one day I went into his room a copy of the one Henry didn't like was there, and he would not have read it as he never sits in his room. I twice spoke to someone, still no newspaper. Then was told to speak to the girl in reception, she took a note of it, but still it never materialized.

On Friday his named nurse asked which Sunday newspaper to order for Henry. Almost after he has been there six weeks. I said none. At home he had definitely stopped looking at Sunday newspapers, I think with their supplements and adverts they were too much for him. I mentioned the daily paper to the nurse and said I doubted he would read one. However she said why not try it for a week, see how it goes.

If the newspaper every does materialize, I doubt he will read it. I now wonder if I will be billed for weeks of a daily newspaper Henry has never received and intend to say at the assessment not to order him a newspaper. Or if it actually has been ordered, cancel it.

Long newspaper story.... but another annoying niggle. Why should I pay something like £18 for weeks of daily newspapers either seldom or never delivered.

I did wonder if I was being taken to the cleaners.....

I also hate sewing, and like you, Saffie, find threading a needle now difficult. Tonight I ordered iron on labels. If they are the same as what came up on the website after I typed in Henry's name, room number and wing name they are very clear, and have a ten year guarantee.

I have a feeling that all the items I did label but have diappeared are not being properly looked at because the labels fold over, they hang loose from the tag and simple to look at unless someone is quite dumb.... I shall bring home some items each visiting day, cut off the tagged label and iron on the flat ones.

Two fiddly sounding moans, but they are annoying. Particularly the clothes.

It looks like I will be continuing with daily visits for the forseeable future as I can't see Dave ever settling. He was very unhappy today. I wish I could help him but really don't know how.
I also wish I could help Henry, but don't know how, everything I have tried fails. Concerning his talk about home, asking where he is and why.

With love
Loo xx
 
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Saffie

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Dear Loo
I've written on my thread that today was a better visit. I hope your's is good too.

I would have felt like handing her the AA forms and saying "then you can do this"
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I forgot to respond to this before to say that is what I did. Well, I gave her the photocopied pages to fill in. I didn't want to give the originals because I don't know what she'll say and this way i can, at least put it in my words. It also meant i didn't have to discuss every point with her.

According to the care i spoke to today, a new manager has been appointed - a man. I just hope he's up to the job.

I hope your assessment goes well tomorrow and that all your worries are taken on board and addressed. I'll be thinking of you. LOts of love X
 

Loopiloo

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Dear Saffie

Oh, good that you gave Y the AA forms - and not the originals - to fill in and yes, good you don't have to go over every point with her. Less stress.

Yes, hope the new manager is up to the job.

Thanks for wishing me well tomorow. I'm not sure that there will be an opportunity to voice what concerns I have tomorrow at the assessment meeting. My daughter phoned earier, for two hours, as I was about to write notes for tomorrow, now I'm too tired and have other things I need to do.

On the whole I have no very serious worries about Henry's care in the home, although I do worry about him "settlng in", if ever. However I'll try to address the clothes problem, which I consider serious, but may leave some of the other points until Henry's named nurse is on duty on Wednesday.

As I said on your thread, so pleased to read yout latest update on Dave.

Much love
Loo xxx
 

Saffie

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Dera Loo

I am wondering how your assessment meeting went today. I hope you are happy with the outcome and that all your worries have been addressed. I expect you will be posting when I am fast asleep so will catch up tomorrow.

I hope you get the laundry problems sorted out too. I'm afraid I don't think I will know if any shirts are missing as I took quite a few in but will notice the trousers. I have brought all Dave's short-sleeved shirts home and a couple of jumpers too - after reading the advice of others here to only take a few things in at a time. The laundry service does seem to be very quick - clothes back next day, so many items are not needed. So different from the last hospital!

I hope you have a good sleep tonight - but suspect you might still have the meeting running through your mind. I know I would have. Look after yourself. Lots of love X
 

Nan2seven

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Dear Loo,
Do hope the assessment meeting went well for you to-day.
Thinking of you and Henry and sending love,
Nan XXX
 

Loopiloo

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Thanks for your posts Saffie, Sam Iam and Nan. 'Wee hug and a lot of love' much appreciated Sam Iam. :) May have been in bed before bewitching hour, a record, but since I logged on earlier I have had problems with my Windows Mail Inbox. Spent too much time fiddling with that, doing a scan. Still not right, emails not coming into my Inbox.

I'll write tomorrow now, have felt really unwell today, awful weekend. Wasn't worth tu'pence when I got home from the care home. Having blood tests in the morning.

Thanks again.

Much love
Loo xx
 
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Saffie

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I'm so sorry you're feelng unwell, Loo. I do hope you feel a bit better tomorrow.
I hope the assessment didn't go badly.
I have to confess to having the worst headache I've had for ages. I'm sure it's because I can - now. I had one yesterday, not so bad, and managed a home visit but just couldn't do it today. I just hope Dave didn't notice. I'll possibly find out tomorrow.

I'm typing this all wrong - probably the tablets - which, fortunately have taken the edge off the pain a bit. but i will leave it now. I will catch up tomorrow when I hope you will be feeling better. Lots of love X
 

Nan2seven

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Dear Loo,
I was so sorry to read that you had an awful weekend, followed by a bad day yesterday, too.
Do, please, take very good care of yourself.
Thinking of you and Henry and sending love,
Nan XXX
 

Loopiloo

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Much too long, but what's new...

I have just posted an overlong one, checking spelling, and it disappeared. :(

Thanks so much Saffie and Nan for you kind concern. Slightly better today, at least not so much pain, but still feeling unwell. Hoping your headaches ease off, Saffie, you do sound to have them often and a particularly bad one this time.

Thanks for asking about Monday's final six week assessment. I thought I would be late as I got held up then had trouble finding a parking space, not a large car park. The nurse's office was locked when I arrived, the male carer said she shouldn't be long, on her lunch break. Then the Social Worker was late, she had to park a bit away.

Before they arrived the male carer suggested I have a comfy seat in the Quiet Area, I saw Henry there sitting dozing and said best not sit beside him for just minutes, he'd awaken then wonder why I was quickly disappearing. Had a chat with the carer, asked about Henry. He had been 'dancing' that morning, on his zimmer, to rock and roll music! :eek::)

We finally met in the nurse's office, the SW brought out the Contract and said she would go through it with me later. Then she asked the nurse (from B shift) where the Manager or a Deputy Manager was, but none of them were in. There are three Deputy Managers. The nurse said she would sign the Contract but the SW said it had to be management, showing her that part. Nurse said she had signed them before but SW said no, she would leave it with the nurse to be signed by the appropriate person.

As last time we were given a brief two page summary of various aspects pertaining to Henry, which had been written by Henry's Named Nurse, who had been on duty during the three week assessment. This led on to discussing some parts of it, asking questions, and so on. The overall impression is that they feel Henry appears "happy and content"... he still tries to escape, looks for the way out, wanting to go home, but settles fairly well with reassurance. Socialises fairly well with other residents when he wishes. Hmmm.... :rolleyes: Has a good relationship with the staff, enjoys a laugh/joke.

I have seen he gets on well with the staff, and I think that is his main interaction as few of the dementia residents who go into the lounge talk at all.

Later when I joined him in the Quit Area there were four other residents, one dear very old lady whose voice is as clear as a bell, talks well, but it isn't 'joined up'. She said to me Henry was a beautiful pianist and I had a lovely voice. Then quiet for a spell, then saying to the two dozing men "Gentlemen! Gentlemen!" Another lady I believe is in her nineties was sitting staring at nothing, she sleeps a great deal, falls asleep at the table during mealtimes, seldom speaks. Often badly listing to one side when alseep in an armchiar, Henry becomes quite worried that she might topple off the chair.

While sitting there, talking about the view from the huge window, then Henry sitting quiet, looking at the others he said to me "This place makes me want to cry", I asked why, "Because no one talks".

I think the staff play up the positive and play down the negative. However I would like to believe Henry is becoming more used to his surroundings, the staff, and that what I see when I visit is only a minute part of the whole of his day.

I am always thinking about him, wondering what he is doing during the mornings, afternoons, restless evenings. He has his lucid periods - and I do believe more so in the care home than previously - periods when he is more 'himself'. What is he then thinking, feeling, and how long does it last before the dementia fog rolls in again.

The main problems mentioned were his very high risk of falls and always forgetting to using his zimmer, or abandoning it. He needs constant observation. Also his dislike about being awakened to get up in the mornings. This was a big problem at home, and I imagine he does protest and swear even although they made light about it.

The care home optician had visited and done an eye test, said Henry needed new glasses. I said he had his eyes tested by our optician of many years when his glasses went missing in hospital in March. The nurse persisted that their optician said one eye was bad, I said it always will be as he has cataracts in both eyes, and one eye very bad. But the hospital specialist who does the annual diabetes eye test had said if it is not bothering Henry then leave it, cataract surgery could be a problem for him. The nurse said but he wont be able to read his newspaper, I said that had dwindled before he landed in hospital, he only flicked through it and not due to eyesight but loss of interest.

His eyes can't have deteriorated much over less than four months, unless affected by being critically ill with the out of control blood sugar levels. Just days before that started he had his annual slit eye test for diabetic damage and was clear.

I did bring up my concern about Henry's clothes still not being labelled by the care home after six weeks, having been told from the start that each time I brought any clothes in I must leave them for the laundry to label. When I did but they remained unlabelled I was then assured they would be. The SW thought this important and opened up the subject, and it did not go down well with the B shift nurse. She muttered about communication between the two shifts - the various times I left clothes for labelling were on her shift, but I did not say so. I said I had now started labelling what I brought in and would continue to do so, including the still unlabelled clothes. Most of his clothes were now labelled; previously by the hospital and recently by me. It made sense for me to label the remainder since I now had labels, than the care home order them for him (which I was told they would do the first week). But I was concerned that both labelled and unlabelled clothes were missing. No response.

Henry's personal items taken in were also supposed to be labelled but none have been done. I didn't mention that but shall also label them myself.

The nurse then said I need to leave everything brought in to be listed by the care home, and brought out a short list. I said I had thought that would be done when clothes were labelled by them...? No reply.

Having typed out a list of everything belonging to Henry for my own reference I suggested she take a copy I had taken in and could compare it with her list (much shorter) and add to it. She declined to accept my list but the SW said she thought it would be useful. The nurse wasn't pleased, reluctantly took my list and muttered perhaps someone on the night shift could attend to it.

Later the SW indicated that she wished to go over the contract with me, I said we could go to Henry's room although only one chair, SW asked the nurse if alright if we stayed in her office, she nodded and left us.

I spoke about everything nicely, no confrontation. But I was feeling hostile vibes. Quite different from the three week assessment with Henry's Named Nurse. I did feel awkward, The SW was also pleasant, but firm on several points.

After going over the Contract and signing it the SW returned to the subject of the unlabelled clothes and some I had labelled myself appearing to have gone missing. She said it concerned her, I said me too although during over five months in the Community Hospital things had gone missing. Also Henry had five items in his wardrobe and drawers labelled by the hospital which are not his. SW said "He was wearing other people's clothes?! Did you tell the staff?" I said yes but eventually I gave up as he also at times wore others unlabelled clothes and I realized it was not going to be addressed.

Then I smiled and said "At least it has only happened once here!" and she asked about that, I said Henry had been wearing someone else's shirt and sweater. Did I speak to the staff about it? No, but if it had happened again I would have done so. It was a one off. She then said she would speak to the nurse about it. I said "I am not making a complaint, it was a one off". But she was firm about it, saying it is a matter of Henry's dignity, it is not acceptable.

I wished I had never made that passing comment.

The SW walked with my back to where Henry was sitting where I joined him, but she spotted the nurse and went to talk to her, for quite a wee while. I concentrated on Henry. We didn't have much time together before tea-time.

Later after the SW left I saw one of the main carers come from the lounge to the nurse's office, she was there a while before she returned carring the new trousers and jog bottoms I had labelled and brought in for Henry, and went into his room, spent some time in there. Then I heard the wardrobe door being banged, and when she came out she banged the bedroom door, strode past me without a glance but an angry expression, back to the nurse's room.

I took some toiletries into Henry's room, looked in the wardrobe and two pairs of the new trousers were on the one hanger, just shoved on it, not properly hung.

I now feel awful. As I have previously said, I have gathered an impression that the B shift are a clique, whereas the A shift (with Henry's Named Nurse) are not at all like that. The last thing I want is any undercurrents, but I can see that the nurse and her care assistant may think that I complained to the SW 'behind the back' of the nurse about Henry wearing someone's elses clothes, which was not the case. I made a passing comment to the SW in a light hearted way - and wish I had not done so.

If possible I shall have a word with Henry's Named Nurse tomorrow, and try to nip it in the bud. If I had concerns I would (and have) talk to her about them, not privately to a Social Worker. We discussed the clothes situation last Friday, also my wish to have Henry's blood sugar levels checked more than only mornings, for a spell, to see how they were throughout the day as last week she tested at 4pm and it was too high. She said no problem, she would do that. Also said to mention this, and the clothes, at the assessment. I find her comfortable to talk to, she always says anything bothering me just tell her etc., etc. I do have the impression that she genuinely does put the residents best interests first. But the other nurse is different, she does things her way and is remote, not easy to talk to.

I have gone on quite a bit about it all, haven't I. But then I do, don't I... I apologise, It somehow helps to write it.

For the short while we were together Henry was fine. No agitation. Just that revealing comment "This place makes me want to cry."

Until I was leaving. A carer was walking him and his zimmer back to the dining area, I thought it best to leave them to it rather than go with him and kissed him goodbye. But he stood with his zimmer and the carer repeatedly calling after me when would I be back, why was I going away.... I kept trying to tell myself that once he reached the dining area he would have forgotten I had been there. But there is no knowing what is retained in the mind, lurks there.

I would not go as far as to say he is "happy and content", but more resigned. Still wandering about trying to find a way out, wanting to go home, but becoming less distressed. I hope. He has always complied with staff, in hospital, now in the care home, doing what he feels is expected of him. But to me he voices different feelings.

The trouble is we worry, have concerns, because we know the person in there in the dementia fog more than anyone else does. Those who have only spent time with him for six weeks make their observations from the outside.

But enough.

To those of you who do read this far, thanks for reading, for bearing with me.

Love
Loo xxx
 
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Nan2seven

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Oh, Loo, dear Loo, I have just read your long post above and it has reduced me to tears. The last part, about Henry. The resignation on his part, the complying with the staff and the little insight you had of his real feelings from his remark about wanting to cry. It is heartbreaking, isn't it, the knowledge that you can't manage to look after him yourself and that he is just muddling along and having to accept the alternative. I so well remember how I felt when Brian had his three falls within a week of going into his first care home, his acceptance of the situation and my feeling of helplessness that I could not have him back home with me. As you say, the only consolation we can muster is that the "fog of dementia" takes all the edges off the situation for him. But it doesn't do that for you, does it.

On the question of the labelled/unlabelled clothing, I felt more and more incensed as I read of the nurse's attitude to your very valid concerns. And I was so glad to see that the SW took your part in all of it. No, you did not make a complaint but you indeed had every right to - and the SW was probably doing it because she felt a complaint should be made. It seems to me that she (the nurse) is being incredibly high-handed and dismissive over something really basic - that the residents should be able to expect to wear their own clothing and not that of other residents.

Since the Shift A nurse is so much nicer and more approachable, I think I would feel inclined to "take her into your confidence" and express more strongly your wish for Henry to wear his own clothes at all times - and the hope that they cease to go missing - and give up trying to be polite and decent to the nurse on Shift B and tell her that you are not satisfied with her attitude over the clothing question, nor with the constant failure of the home to label clothes accurately or at all.

You have been patience itself, Loo, allowing them time to get their act together and they have simply let things ride. It seems to me that a very strong word with the management is now the next step. If, like me, you hate confrontations of any kind, why not get it all down in a letter and hand it to the manager when you next go in. That way he/she will read all of it in one go, so to speak, rather than interrupt you when you are trying to make your various points. And you have plenty to make ....

I know how upset I was on the one occasion I found Brian wearing someone else's shirt - I cannot understand why care homes do not see how upsetting this is for the relatives - and I feel you have now been TOO reasonable in letting them get Henry's clothing sorted out. Get it down on paper, Loo, and hand your letter in to the management.

Thinking of you both and sending love,
Nan XXX
 

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Dear Loo

I am so upset for you. To have Henry say
"This place makes me want to cry",........."Because no one talks".
is so sad.

Has there been any mention of a Review?

Dhiren`s needs were reviewed after he`d been in the home for 6 weeks and then annually. It gives everyone involved with the care of the resident, including doctor, SW, CPN and care home staff to sit round a table and discuss any concerns.
 

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Dear Sylvia

Yes it is sad. That was the true 'inner Henry' expressing himself. The clarity of thought may only occur now and then, but when it does it gives a real insight.

There has not been a Review as you describe it. Monday was the six weeks assesment and signing of the contract if all were satisfied. The duty nurse, social worker and myself, although there should also have been the manager or one of the deputy managers. None were in on Monday, and considering there are three deputy managers I thought that poor.

No doctor is involved. Henry only had a CPN a few times after diagnosis in 2007 and, frankly, he was useless.

Prior to Henry's hip fractore our GP had some time earlier requested a CPN as she and I felt this was now required, Henry's dementia having deteriorated, and mainly for my benefit as support. Also to help persuade Henry to attend a day centre to give me some respite. He had strongly declined that several times when the doctor tried to persuade him.

My one stipulation was that I did not want the same CPN as first called, and our GP just stopped short of agreeing with me that he was useless. However she thought he had left this area and she was sure it would be a different CPN'

The evening of his fall was the first time Henry had attended similar to a day centre, an assessment centre - and he did not like it. I only got him to go by taking the "doctor's orders" approach. But the CPN requested much earlier had not by then materilaised. That first visit to the assessment centre also took a long time to happen.

I actually did not know that where there is a CPN when a loved one is at home, that they are still involved after a move to a care home.

There will be another similar assessment in six months time, thereafter annually.

Henry's named nurse reviews his Care Needs monthly, I am told. My confidence in her is gradually growing, she is conscientious, listens, and seems to genuinely 'care' for the residents.

Yesteray I spoke to her about the clothes situation, being his named nurse, and knowing she would take it on board more than the other appeared to do. But will write about that later.

Loo xx
 

Saffie

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Mar 26, 2011
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Dear Loo

I wrote a long reply to your post about the assessment yesterday afternoon but my internet froze and I lost it all. I admit to being too tired to rewrite it then so left it until today. Yes, i also said that Henry's words made me shed a tear or two. so very sad.

I also said that I was pleased that the SW had taken on board your concerns re the clothes. The day Dave was in a polo shirt that was not his, and even had the correct name on the label, I took it off and put his own shirt on.

It is difficult to know just how much to complain isn't it? To alienate staff or let it go - very tricky but I guess we just have to try get the balance right. I hope the named nurse will address the problem with the other nurse.

Do take good care of yourself, Loo - get plenty of rest! Lots of love X