Drinking Problem...

Suzanna1969

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No, not mine (that's probably best kept for another site!) but my parents.

Dad has Vascular Parkisonism and has been getting forgetful lately... I do wonder if he is showing a few signs of Dementia due to his condition but...

Last September he ended up in hospital with an E Coli infection in his urinary system following a week of constipation. His condition worsened as a result. Ever since then I've been nagging him daily to drink more fluids. He HAS upped his intake to about 3 glasses a day... he tells me that he has never drunk much water and was brought up to only drink when he was actually thirsty (by which time he would already have been dehydrated grrr...)

But anyway he reckons he's doing his best.

Mum has Vascular Dementia and her strokes have affected her swallowing. She is on a mashable diet although copes well with foods 'off the list'. She has Resource Thickener for her drinks but I suspect she often doesn't add it. She probably drinks less than Dad.

After reading this forum and the warnings of the effects of a person with Dementia getting a UTI I obviously stepped up the nagging/encouragement for BOTH of them. This morning I arrived at their bungalow and Dad told me she had been constipated this morning (unheard of) and had been more upset than usual (she has been very weepy in the mornings for the last few months and has been on Mirtazapine for the last 3 weeks). I went out and bought some tasty cordials for the BOTH to have and went over why they need to have them and the dangers of not drinking enough fluids.... I know Mum might not remember unless it's for Dad's sake (she dotes on him) and Dad says he does understand but I don't think he fully appreciates the full impact of what the consequences could be.

Can ANYONE please give me some tips on how to get some fluids down their necks without resorting to Suffragette-style tactics? I am a logical person and I know Dementia has no truck with logic but I really thought my logical Dad would get on board, however it seems I inherited my intransigent, stubborn, heels dug in persona from him as well as my Spock side.... HELP!!!!!
 

Beate

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Quilty

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I used sneaky tactics. My 12 year old son did the nagging for me. Nana could not be angry at her boy, and the boy got to look after his Nana and help.

Hard, hard work and still a battle. I make sure every visit involves a drink. On orders of the doctor.
 

joggyb

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Get them to eat food with high water content like lettuce, cucumber, watermelon, strawberries, tomatoes...
Here's a list but I am sure you can find others by googling: http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/list-fruits-vegetable-high-water-content-8958.html and http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20709014,00.html plus https://www2.ca.uky.edu/enri/pubs/enri129.pdf
If you think your mum has a UTI now, try and get a urine test done for her.

I second what Beate says. Lots of fruit and veg (naturally high water content) and other liquidy foods where possible - soup, yogurt, etc. Given we're about to have some hot weather (allegedly) - ice lollies and ice cream would be good options, too.
 

Risa

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Since they have both suffered from constipation recently, would stressing that the more fluids they drink, the more it will help prevent this get your Dad on-side? I buy small bottles of water in a pack for my parents and nag them to drink 3 a day. My Dad doesn't have dementia so I think it is easier for him to 'follow orders' if he sees the bottles lined up :D
 

patsy56

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Trying to get B to drink more water is like I don't know what. He gave himself severe dehydration one weekend and realises he need to take more liquid. It is nag nag nag, but I get there. Oh B has Parkinson's.
 

Suzanna1969

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Mum is supposed to have all her drinks thickened following her stroke last August, which is another complication. She often forgets to add it and Dad doesn't always remind her either. Because I don't live with them it's hard to monitor exactly what they're drinking on a daily basis but the other day I went round and saw Dad's water glass was missing and gave him the old Spanish Inquisition - turned out he'd just had a VERY small glass of water with his tablets that morning and a small glass of Innocent Smoothie. Mum hadn't drunk ANYTHING. This was 3pm!!! :eek:

Thing is, Dad is still fairly compos mentis and is an intelligent man, so it beggars belief he could be so stupid as to not grasp this concept. I've had the GP, the physiotherapist, the Vascular Specialist, the NHS Nutritionist, the Community Matron and gawd knows how many other healthcare professionals round over the last ten months for both parents and I never miss an opportunity to ask them about the importance of proper hydration. They all back me up and are horrified how little fluids both parents are consuming. Dad laughs and says I have got properly bossy since taking on their care, I make sure he always has a full glass and often a jug too but he still maintains that he doesn't feel the need to drink and rarely thinks of getting himself a glass of water unless I've left it there for him and had a bit of a rant. And this is after being in the local hospital (under special measures and, in my opinion, on a par with a Syrian prison!) with E Coli in his urine! :eek::eek::eek: During his time there he was delirious and hallucinting about dogs being in the ward and fire alarms going off and everyone rushing out and leaving him. He does actually have some recollection of this. And still doesn't see the need to drink!

Mum takes forever to swallow just one mouthful of a drink because of her swallowing difficulties. I feel sure if Dad prompted her she might drink a bit more although I doubt either of them will ever consume the recommended amount. She isn't allowed many of the foods which have a high water content either, being on a mashable diet.

Neither of them drink beer or any alcohol and never have - I am the black sheep of the family there! I'm afraid my consumption has increased lately too, can't think why! *slurps leftover wine from last night*
 
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Cinder

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It's a nightmare getting MIL to drink too. She will only take tea (2 sugars or it gets sent back!), fresh orange juice or lemonade. None of which she can prepare herself, so it's waitress service all day.
We have her on a nutritional supplement drink once a day which is chocolate flavoured- so that goes down well. Also lots of soup. Watermelon is always good- easy to eat and sweet.
I'll be watching this thread with interest!


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Bod

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Is there a drink they will take?
Squash, lemonade, Iron-bru, grape juice, Camp coffee?
What are the flavours, they like to eat?
Bit of searching and experiment, might throw up something, Juice from boiled up rhubarb, used to be a favourite with me as a kid.(needed plenty of sugar)
Think a little outside the box, as modern parlance has it!

Bod