Care home fees ss and top up

[Banjomansmate]

When The Banjoman was first assessed for CHC funding whilst in hospital he qualified on several counts but once in the Care home he was reassessed on a ten minute interview with him and unsurprisingly down graded to not qualifying. I insisted that his mental capacity/cognition should have been an A but was basically ignored although the judgement report did say that I disagreed. The official assessor also came up with the excuse that having several falls in a hospital environment wasn’t unusual so they wouldn’t be considered. He has since fallen and broken his femur and fallen and split his head open and now a request has been sent in for a further physiotherapist visit (he refused to cooperate with the last one) and a visit from the specialist “falls” team.

 

[Banjomansmate]

According to the firms that claim they can get you CHC funding, it is available in Care homes as well as Nursing homes.

 

[canary]

According to the firms that claim they can get you CHC funding, it is available in Care homes as well as Nursing homes.

Well I was always under the impression that CHC had to be provided either at home (with nurses coming in), or in a nursing home, otherwise it seems to me that the NHS is paying for nursing care that isnt happening.
But, as I said, my mum never qualified for CHC and I may be wrong.

 

[Shedrech]

I think the term 'care home' is being used rather loosely

this excerpt from the from the NHS site makes it clearer .... my bolding:

If you're not eligible for NHS continuing healthcare
If you're not eligible for NHS continuing healthcare, but you're assessed as requiring nursing care in a care home (in other words, a care home that's registered to provide nursing care) you'll be eligible for NHS funded nursing care

 

[DesperateofDevon]

Ah ...

( silent screams!! We need that emoji on here please moderators)

Don’t think I’ve got the energy left to battle anymore- I’ve just agreed to pay a top up on Dads CH to the council. Can’t face anymore hassles & after all when Mum & Dad don’t have money then I will have to cross that bridge.

But thank you for explaining it all.

I wonder if like the council tax you can back claim?

 

[AshestoAshes]

Can you back claim on council tax then? To when a person got their dementia diagnosis? I will need to look into this for my dad. Have had finances conversations with the LA but they haven't mentioned this.

 

[canary]

Can you back claim on council tax then? To when a person got their dementia diagnosis? I will need to look into this for my dad. Have had finances conversations with the LA but they haven't mentioned this.

You can claim a council tax disregard from the time that the PWD has a diagnosis of dementia and gets an appropriate benefit - either Attendance Allowance or DLA/PIP. You can claim back to the time that both have happened. Usually the diagnosis comes first and then there is the claim for AA, DLA or PIP. Once you have both, go on the internet to your local council, download the form requesting a disregard due to "Severe Mental Impairment" (lovely name eh?), get your GP to sign it and send it in. It will effectively remove them from council tax payment, so if they are living on their own or with one other person there will be a reduction in tax, but if they are living with more than one other eligible person, there wont be.

 

[AshestoAshes]

Thanks very much for this advice @canary. Dad lives alone so would qualify. I will get working on this.

Sorry for the derail - hope you can get sorted, @DesperateofDevon

 

[DesperateofDevon]

Can you back claim on council tax then? To when a person got their dementia diagnosis? I will need to look into this for my dad. Have had finances conversations with the LA but they haven't mentioned this.

Yes I did, I sent in the date of his diagnosis & droped off the form for Dads GP to sign
It was a lovely bonus to get something positive back