1. Expert Q&A: Protecting a person with dementia from financial abuse - Weds 26 June, 3:30-4:30 pm

    Financial abuse can have serious consequences for a person with dementia. Find out how to protect a person with dementia from financial abuse.

    Sam, our Knowledge Officer (Legal and Welfare Rights) is our expert on this topic. She will be here to answer your questions on Wednesday 26 June between 3:30 - 4:30 pm.

    You can either post questions >here< or email them to us at talkingpoint@alzheimers.org.uk and we'll answer as many as we can on the day.

  1. Boo7878

    Boo7878 Registered User

    Oct 19, 2015
    10
    Hi, I have just joined Talking Point . Our stepfather has Dementia, he has been in a nursing home now for 3 years. As his condition has now worsened, the home he's paid for , for the last 3 years now has given notice for him to be moved out. We think this is so wrong as we were told he would have a place there for the rest of his life! It seems as though now his illness has become more difficult they want him moved out :(
    This is so unfair as the cost has been substantial:confused:
     
  2. Kevinl

    Kevinl Registered User

    Aug 24, 2013
    4,667
    Salford
    Hi Boo, welcome to TP
    Sorry to here about your situation, it is something that crops up on here every now and again and it's always difficult. To be fair to the care home if his condition has now got past the point then can cope they have a duty of care to him and the other residents to do something. You don't say if they can't cope medically or is it behavioural? Either way it brings into question if something happened would they be insured, could they be held liable for acting beyond their remit.
    I would contact Social Service and ask them for advice, I take it from what you've said he's self funding but even so they are still obliged to help as he is a vulnerable person, they may do no more than tell you what alternative places exist that can cope with his needs which will give you somewhere to start.
    K
     
  3. cragmaid

    cragmaid Registered User

    Oct 18, 2010
    7,963
    North East England
    Hi Boo, and welcome, sorry you have found us.:)
    I presume Dad's Care Home is not a specialist Dementia Home, but have you spoken to the management and asked what the problem is? If his behaviour is causing problems with other residents, then it may be that any medication he is taking may be in need of tweaking, likewise he may have a Urinary Tract Infection of similar. A UTI can cause havoc to the system in a Dementia Patient. Ask his GP to give him the once over.
    Is Dad self funding and do you have a Social Worker? If you contact the Local Authority Adult Social Care, they ought to be able to provide you with a ist of homes ( hopefully with vacancies) that might be suitable.
    Have you claimed Attendance Allowance for Dad, every little helps with the cost.
    Do you know if Dad has donated an LPA for Health and Welfare and one for Legal and Financial power to anyone?
    I hope this helps a bit, but there is always a fount of information on TP.
    Good Luck and keep posting.
     
  4. canary

    canary Registered User

    Feb 25, 2014
    9,380
    Female
    South coast
    Hello boo and welcome to Talking Point.

    It must be very stressful for you. Is your stepfather in a dementia NH, or a general one that also accepts dementia? Unfortunately, the need to move does happen fairly often on here and its usually because they are not in a dedicated dementia NH.

    Actually, if his needs are beyond what the NH can provide for then it would not be safe for him to remain where he is, so I would bite the bullet and start looking around for somewhere else. It is always wise to be very frank about his behaviour and also ask exactly what behaviour the NH would not be able to cope with when you are talking to a them about possible placement.

    If he is not self-funded then you need to contact SS and work with them about a suitable placement
     
  5. Boo7878

    Boo7878 Registered User

    Oct 19, 2015
    10
    Boo

    Hi yes my stepfather is in a Dementia/ nursing home. He's had his meds changed now, we have looked @ a few new places but so far have found none suitable, only places too far ? S, services are involved & doing their best for us. It's been going on now for a couple of month's, just so very stressful , we do appreciate he needs to be in the right place with the right care & support. He's always been a vey quiet Person no trouble at all. But with this illness things change as we all know .
     
  6. canary

    canary Registered User

    Feb 25, 2014
    9,380
    Female
    South coast
    Im so sorry to hear that Boo, I do hope you find the right place soon
    xx
     
  7. Boo7878

    Boo7878 Registered User

    Oct 19, 2015
    10
    Thank you:)
     
  8. 1mindy

    1mindy Registered User

    Jul 21, 2015
    539
    Female
    Shropshire
    I remember well where I was and what I was doing when I got the " your mum needs to be moved to somewhere more suitable " call. I cried buckets thinking of the impact on her and she and we loved the home so much. We moved her she didn't even notice. We did get somewhere fairly close to us though,which was a relief .
     
  9. Boo7878

    Boo7878 Registered User

    Oct 19, 2015
    10
    Boo

    I'm happy your mum was fine with this, we just hope our stepfather will be ? he is being assessed this week for CHC funding ? :(
     
  10. Boo7878

    Boo7878 Registered User

    Oct 19, 2015
    10
    Hi, our stepfather hasn't been too well the past week , his med's have been changed ! We will hopefully see if they have any effect in a week or two.
    His assessment did not go to Panel last week as too many for them to hear. We doubt he will get the funding but just want him to be settled. :)
     
  11. Boo7878

    Boo7878 Registered User

    Oct 19, 2015
    10
    Hi,our stepfather is now in a hospital where he has been assessed accurately.. He was sectioned under sec 2, this was for 4 weeks. He was then sectioned under Section 3 then section 17. This has given him an accurate assessment for his care needs @ a new home. He is so much better in himself, as his medication has been sorted out. He will be there for a little while longer, we will now be able to look for a new care home for him. This will be funded for him because of what's happened to him.
    My sister & myself now feel happier for him as his needs have now been met which is less stressful for all.
    Xxx:)
     
  12. fizzie

    fizzie Registered User

    Jul 20, 2011
    2,740
    oh Boo how stressful for you but so pleased it has worked out after all that trauma. Hopefully your Dad will be settled and back to his old peaceful self - it would bring a smile to his face if he understood the funding xx
     
  13. canary

    canary Registered User

    Feb 25, 2014
    9,380
    Female
    South coast
    Im glad to hear that he is being properly assessed and hope the move to a new NH will go smoothly
    xx
     
  14. Boo7878

    Boo7878 Registered User

    Oct 19, 2015
    10
    Hi, just to say our stepfather has been in his New home for just over a week & a half now. He was a little confused but now seems to be settling in ok, time will tell.:) We will know more next week as I have been unwell & not been able to visit. I have phoned regular to see how he's has been getting on. I will keep you posted:):eek:
     
  15. Izzy

    Izzy Volunteer Moderator

    Aug 31, 2003
    58,760
    Female
    Dundee
    That's good news. I hope you feel better now.
     
  16. fizzie

    fizzie Registered User

    Jul 20, 2011
    2,740
    That is good news Boo. Hope you feel better soon too x
     
  17. Boo7878

    Boo7878 Registered User

    Oct 19, 2015
    10
    #17 Boo7878, Feb 14, 2016
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2016
    Boo

    Hi Izzy, yes we feel better now thank you my sister & myself . We only hope that the good work the Hospital assessment unit did will not be undone? Hopefully we will be going into visit our stepfather this Wednesday, he will have been there just 2 weeks so we will have some idea of how things are going .:)
     

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