1. dmc

    dmc Registered User

    Mar 13, 2006
    1,157
    hi everyone

    havent posted for a while, so a little update on mum and her antidepressants
    she's been on them a few weeks now and up untill last weekend we were seeing an improvement she's been smiling more, a lot chattier, and the nurses were saying how different she was, its her birthday friday, so my dads family came to stay last weekend and we had a early celebration with her with a cake and cards and she was fine but when we left she started getting aggresive towards the staff, we had arranged for her to come home on sunday but she was very aggresive towards my dad so we made the decision to take her back to hospital, the nursing staff seems to think that the prozac has lifted her mood a bit too much and made her more aware of what is going on so its back to the drawing board, they might have to reduce the dosage to try and keep her stable.
    when dad took her back she said to him "you wait your going to be here one day see how you like it"
    i'd love to know where all this comes from as most of her conversations are just garbled murmurings.
    she obviously is still very much aware of her surroundings,
    all this has left me more confused than ever, just when i think the dementia has taken over she comes back fighting.
    im just off for a visit so fingers crossed she's still not to angry with us for taking her back:eek:

    hope your all ok
    take care xxx

    p.s im so pleased it was TP having problems i'd thought id been banned when i couldnt get on the last few days:eek: :D xx
     
  2. Amy

    Amy Registered User

    Jan 4, 2006
    3,453
    Hiya Donna,
    Hope the visit has gone well. It must be so much more difficult for you, when mum has the lucid times, and expresses her feelings. You and your dad are doing all that you can though.
    Take care. Love Helen.
     
  3. Margarita

    Margarita Registered User

    Feb 17, 2006
    10,824
    london
    It can all get rather confusing when giving medication for depression with someone that has dementia, as taking Prozac can make a person aggresive, anyway it is well know and has been in the papers.

    Like Amy says it may well be that your mum is having a enlighten day anyway knowing what is happening to her so its coming out in anger can’t blame her .

    Also may be your mum can’t take the stress of every one making a fuss of her birthday Getting confused so is takeing it out on the staff
     
  4. jenniferpa

    jenniferpa Volunteer Moderator

    Jun 27, 2006
    39,439
    I have posted elsewhere about the positive effects of antidepressants on my mother (in her case, citalopram) but you're right - the downside is an increased awareness of their own predicament. It is unfortunate if with increased awareness comes a sense of the unfairness of it all - if that's the case, it's no wonder that she feels agressive. It's a difficult situation to be in - is it better for her to be medicated to the point where she can recognise that she's not as she was, or is it better to reduce the meds so that she can again be oblivious? It can be difficult to get the dosage right with so many of the available antidepressants - too little and there's no point, too much and you can flip right into serotonin syndrome which in its serious manifestation can be fatal or if milder can result in bizzare behaviour such sugar cravings and eating a jar of jam in one sitting (guess how I know this!).

    Jennifer
     
  5. Margarita

    Margarita Registered User

    Feb 17, 2006
    10,824
    london
    #5 Margarita, Sep 6, 2006
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2006
    your so right when you say that as it could be also said for Alzheimer's drugs
    PS


    However, I suppose quality of life can come in to it, but how can a person with dementia define quality of life, so it is left up to the carer to define it . If you undertand what I mean .
     
  6. Tender Face

    Tender Face Account Closed

    Mar 14, 2006
    5,379
    NW England
    Tell me about it! Thought it was their nice way of being 'subtle'!!!!:eek: :D

    On a much more serious note, so pleased you managed what you all did for your mum. Well done!

    Isn't is just the way? You get accustomed to one thing and bang! here comes another surprise or challenge (or both together).....?

    Nice to see you around.... been wondering about you!

    Love, Karen, x
     
  7. dmc

    dmc Registered User

    Mar 13, 2006
    1,157
    thanks everyone for all the replies,
    i have been trying to get on TP but keep getting "cannot find server":confused:
    one thing i forgot to mention is mum has a ear infection does anyone know if this can have the same effect as a water infection?

    the visit didnt go to bad, she started crying (no tears) when we got there saying get me out please take me home, we managed to pacify her took her for a walk, she kept staring at me, as though she was trying to work out who i was, even though she kept calling my name (very strange).
    I managed to put some makeup on her and tong her hair which she seems to like (makes me feel as if im doing something worthwhile ):rolleyes:
    tomorow is her 66th birthday, we were going to try and have a small party in the house but i dont think she will be allowed home im not sure she's even aware that it is her birthday.
    ive bought her a silver bracelet with "mum " on it, i was really stuck for ideas, my dad seems to think its a waste of time as she's not aware of it but as this is most probably the last birthday im going to have with her i felt we really ought to make a bigger effort.

    on a lighter note, does any one know how to get rid of a scream ive got a big one building up in my chest and a very big urge to let it go but im afraid the men in white coats will cart me off:D
    any ideas will be gratefully recieved
    hope everyone is ok,
    take care, love
     
  8. Skye

    Skye Registered User

    Aug 29, 2006
    17,000
    SW Scotland
    Hi Donna

    I know the feeling! There's nothing like a good scream for releasing tension, and it doesn't give you a headache like crying does. So go for it! I usually take the car out onto a quiet road and scream & scream until I feel better. Men in white coats? Bring 'em on!

    Skye:
     
  9. dmc

    dmc Registered User

    Mar 13, 2006
    1,157
    Hello skye
    thanks for that, :)
    glad im not alone, if you hear of any earthquakes in south wales going off the richter scale it'll be me screaming:D xxx
     
  10. Tender Face

    Tender Face Account Closed

    Mar 14, 2006
    5,379
    NW England
    Donna, this reminded me of something I posted just the other day sharing what the Age Concern worker mentioned to me that 'it doesn't matter that she doesn't remember (what she did) etc ... she'll have some recognition of a nice time....' so, perhaps in the same way, your mum may not recognise her gift in a specific way (as in, 'it's a lovely silver bracelet') nor remember later that she had been given it ... but in those few moments of giving and receiving a gift ... well, if that gives her a feeling of a 'nice time' .... (and a special memory for you too, hopefully)

    Love and hugs, and special wishes for your mum for her birthday!

    Karen, xxx

    PS: As for screaming - you're in South Wales? - me near Manchester - maybe we could go for the stereo effect which would hit around Birmingham ......?????;)
     
  11. Canadian Joanne

    Canadian Joanne Volunteer Moderator

    Apr 8, 2005
    16,103
    Toronto, Canada
    Having a scream

    Hi Skye & Donna,
    I did this when I was young & stupid - got in a lift of a very tall building & screamed my way down. I would recommend being alone in the lift when you do this!!
    Joanne
     
  12. dmc

    dmc Registered User

    Mar 13, 2006
    1,157
    #12 dmc, Sep 7, 2006
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2007
    go on then TF
    after three 1...2....... AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
    apologies to all TP'ers in birmingham and surrounding areas:eek: :D



    thanks TF for your kind thoughts i'll let you know how its recieved.
    thanks all for your replies, they mean so much and youve saved me from looking like this
     
  13. Brucie

    Brucie Registered User

    Jan 31, 2004
    12,413
    near London
    Since screaming is the order of the day, and the Promenade Concerts are ongoing at present, we should plan to get the Royal Albert Hall to ourselves one day.

    We should all learn that favourite song of mine "They're coming to take me away, ha-ha" my alternative to screaming.

    The full lyrics are at http://codehot.co.uk/lyrics/mnop/napoleonXIV.htm for anyone who does not know it by heart already.

    To make things worse, on the original single, the B side was the song played backwards.

    I reckon 3,000+ people all singing this song at the Royal albert Hall might make for some publicity....eh? ;)
     
  14. dmc

    dmc Registered User

    Mar 13, 2006
    1,157
    good idea brucie!!
    and a great way to raise some funds for alzheimers, we'd raise the roof:eek:



    tina
    please tell me i didnt break another mirror:eek: if we done that in germany imagine how many we broke in birmingham!!!
     
  15. dmc

    dmc Registered User

    Mar 13, 2006
    1,157
    hello everyone,

    visited mum but i dont think she was that aware it was her birthday first thing she said was lets go come on...... the silver bracelet seemed to go down ok though she said oh thats lovely, which made me happy, not sure how long she'll remember about it but as you said karen for that second she was aware of it and she liked it.
    were keeping our fingers crossed she can come home for a few days but really its down to my dad as he's the one coping at home with her.
    she's having a tea party at the hospital tonight and she has all her cards in the tv room where they all sit so i hope that will go some way to compensate for her not being home with us.
    or is that just me with the guilt monster on my shoulder!!!
    take care all xx
     
  16. Skye

    Skye Registered User

    Aug 29, 2006
    17,000
    SW Scotland
    Hi Donna

    Glad your Mum's birthday went well. I'm sure she felt special, even if she didn't realise the significance of the occasion. Hope the weekend goes well, but please don't feel guilty, I know it's hard to accept, but you really are doing the best for your Mum.

    By the way, I'm screaming in SW Scotland. Now if we can only find someone in John o'Groats, we'll hve quadraphonics!

    Cheers, Skye
     
  17. alfjess

    alfjess Registered User

    Jul 10, 2006
    1,213
    south lanarkshire
     
  18. alfjess

    alfjess Registered User

    Jul 10, 2006
    1,213
    south lanarkshire
    I can't seem to get this quote thinngy right
    Alfjess
     
  19. Amy

    Amy Registered User

    Jan 4, 2006
    3,453
    Hiya Donna,
    don't know if you want to hear this, but yes, I think it may just be the guilt monster. Mum has had a happy time , and you have done that for her - just rest happy with that thought.
    Love Helen
     
  20. Lynne

    Lynne Registered User

    Jun 3, 2005
    3,433
    Suffolk,England
    :) Don't worry about it Alfjess, the meaning comes thorugh anyway, even if not perfectly 'packaged'.

    If you want to quote another person, click the QUOTE button at the bottom right-hand corner of their reply. You'll get the whole of their text reproduced in a reply screen. You can then just type your message below, or edit out some of it first if you just want to comment on one sentence of it.
     

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