And so it goes on...

AliceA

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I agree with you wholeheartedly. Everything you say is true. Sometime back someone sent me an article about the Golden Ticket in North Weald. This was looking hopeful to at least provide a strong recognition and someone to turn to. There was talk of it being rolled out.
As it is I feel I am have to explain and reexplain to people who should be explaining to me!

Our new GP, after the last retired early, wanted a retest from the memory clinic to see how things now were, she thought it would get more support. She wanted to understand.
This was refused as she was told it was a progressive disease and it was progressing.
I am fortunate in some ways as I have some life skills that help me to be aware, I have now swung these into action. However my own health issues are tripping me up.
I am having three monthly treatments to deal with some rogue cells, the last two times my BP caused a problem on the table. Life is fragile.
I am in the process of trying to find a carehome for respite, so that in the worst scenario my husband would have a familiar place to go to eventually IF needed. I trust it will not.

There is little support in this. I have got Adult Serives involved although this was a bit of a fluke.
I had a problem over transport and I thought a letter from them might have sorted it out. I am without transport because the bus was axed. It was well used too. Often 100% full.
This led to a Needs Assessment but the offer of a respite placement was too far away and inaccessible without a car. The nearest places are out of county. I have now found another and although fifty miles away is on a train line. I am doing all the research, contacting etc. It really should not be this difficult. Rocket science must be easier.

I thought the Dementia Choir was helpful because it highlighted the width and extent of the illness, some seem to think it is a few old people going a bit la la.
It is not stark, choirs are in. It has research too.
I remember seeing the film Iris and many people who had enjoyed her books would not go to see the film once they knew it was about dementia. The stigma is rife but it was as if by seeing the film they may have developed it.
Someone I loved used to say 'if no one talks about it, it will be alright.' I often feel that is what we are dealing with and in the silence the numbers are growing and the suffering goes on.
I think this is what the lack of a social policy is. No one with the power really wants to talk about it. That is my hope about the Dementia Choir, the people are seen as real, the problem is seen as solvable with enough initiative. This may at least start to recognise the people left to care.
More imagination is needed.

Well, nine o'clock my husband still sleeps. I suppose I should get on and polish the mirror that he will be reflecting on today! If there is one thing I find helps it is that realising that his mood reflects mine so often.
After your cruise you will really sparkle! With love Alice.
 
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jenniferjean

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My problem if you like is how not to answer back. It’s all very well the books saying go along with things they say, but sometimes I can’t, so I need help and guidance on how to do that.
I know that feeling. I can't help myself. He says "it's bound to rain, we're in Wales". Well we left Wales over a year ago. I can't help myself telling him we no longer live there. On the other hand what's the point. Because ten minutes later he makes the same comment.
 

Mudgee Joy

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Yes following what you are both saying - certainly mood is echoed in my OH. I find myself putting a fake smile on my face and i can see him relax.
I really like the idea Alice of leaving a gift ! But haven’t quite got one in my mind -
But the card is best I think for my OH as he does read my timetables for the day !!
I’m having two days away - then a long weekend - in another 6 weeks - but naturally I am hoping to make it a whole week maybe next year !
Hugs and Bon voyage to you Grahamstown!!
 
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AliceA

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Yes following what you are both saying - certainly mood is echoed in my OH. I find myself putting a fake smile on my face and i can see him relax.
I really like the idea Alice of leaving a gift ! But haven’t quite got one in my mind -
But the card is best I think for my OH as he does read my timetables for the day !!
I’m having two days away - then a long weekend - in another 6 weeks - but naturally I am hoping to make it a whole week maybe next year !
Hugs and Bon voyage to you Grahamstown!!

Just enjoy your break, you really deserve it. They say fake it til you make it. It find letting go of my expectations does genuinely help me too. Then the faking perhaps makes it, well some of the time! :)
 

AliceA

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I know that feeling. I can't help myself. He says "it's bound to rain, we're in Wales". Well we left Wales over a year ago. I can't help myself telling him we no longer live there. On the other hand what's the point. Because ten minutes later he makes the same comment.
Perhaps just neutrally commiserate that it is always wet in Wales, I should know we used to camp there. A friend owned a field by the River Rheidol we used to swim in the river each morning as our morning bath. I was more carefully about the water after finding a dead sheep in it further up the mountain! Xxx
 

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My son has just been for the morning and lo and behold he got up, shaved and dressed and came down just as our son came back from walking his dog. My dear husband was so pleased to see him but after an hour of tea, breakfast and showing the full range of his disabilities, e.g. whose dog is this? and then being desperate to go back to bed and was asleep very fast. At least my son got the full picture for a few hours. We shall go and see the grandchildren tomorrow and I shall really have to work hard to get him out for the afternoon. We had the difficult decisions to discuss, extra help, the respite break, and the DNR that the doctor asked me to discuss. He was not too sure about not resuscitating with CPR in the case of cardiac arrest or ceasing to breath. I know for sure that I certainly wouldn’t want it myself at my age and history, and I wouldn’t want it for him either but my son was not sure so I have left him to ponder. I think it is a good thing to discuss at any time and one of the U3A members raised it to tell us that you must sign the form if you don’t want it to be carried out.

I have another thought about attitudes towards dementia. I have realised that some of his men friends show that they think he could just pull himself together, as if he is voluntarily doing very little. They don’t say it of course, but the way they say couldn’t you do this or that, with endless stimulating ideas, shows that they think it can be tackled. I think it is because men don’t like to see other men in this situation. That said his men friends have been very supportive, visiting, meeting for lunch. We know that more women have the disease but somehow or other that can be absorbed, historical attitudes probably. Some men and women are much more aware and accepting with compassion and understanding and this is becoming more common as programs like that are on mainstream TV. As we all know, people with dementia are like anyone else and need to be considered exactly the same while making allowances like any other person with disabilities and I can say that it is happening near where I live in the public arena.
 

Mudgee Joy

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I know what you mean Grahamstown re the denial - I have read that 1 in 5 men over 80 have dementia- and women a bit less - I suspect people cant easily face it - it’s something we don’t want to know about - the first 2 years don’t show much.
I think now my husband had it for 2 or 3 years before a heart attack put a name to it !! Those of my friends who understand best were once nurses. MJx
 

Grahamstown

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We had lunch at the care home again today and he is getting familiar and comfortable there. He also seems to realise that he is going to stay. To see him so weak and vulnerable was heartbreaking as this disease tightens its grip. We went to our local pub for supper with friends last night and I think they were quite shocked to see how much he has deteriorated, and saw him in sundowning mode when they came back for coffee. They are now telling me that he needs to be on beta blockers for his anxiety, which kicks in under stress of some kind which being in a social situation he certainly is. Listening to their endless chatter and having to try and understand what they were trying to help him remember from the past was extremely stressful. I think it’s the old ‘something can be done’ suggestion to pull someone out of the dementia state. No go I am afraid and I shall just continue my palliative approach which keeps him contented and calm.
 

jenniferjean

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We had lunch at the care home again today and he is getting familiar and comfortable there. He also seems to realise that he is going to stay. To see him so weak and vulnerable was heartbreaking as this disease tightens its grip. We went to our local pub for supper with friends last night and I think they were quite shocked to see how much he has deteriorated, and saw him in sundowning mode when they came back for coffee. They are now telling me that he needs to be on beta blockers for his anxiety, which kicks in under stress of some kind which being in a social situation he certainly is. Listening to their endless chatter and having to try and understand what they were trying to help him remember from the past was extremely stressful. I think it’s the old ‘something can be done’ suggestion to pull someone out of the dementia state. No go I am afraid and I shall just continue my palliative approach which keeps him contented and calm.
I'm fortunate that nobody is telling me what can be done and what should be happening. I don't think I could take it if they did.
 

AliceA

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We had lunch at the care home again today and he is getting familiar and comfortable there. He also seems to realise that he is going to stay. To see him so weak and vulnerable was heartbreaking as this disease tightens its grip. We went to our local pub for supper with friends last night and I think they were quite shocked to see how much he has deteriorated, and saw him in sundowning mode when they came back for coffee. They are now telling me that he needs to be on beta blockers for his anxiety, which kicks in under stress of some kind which being in a social situation he certainly is. Listening to their endless chatter and having to try and understand what they were trying to help him remember from the past was extremely stressful. I think it’s the old ‘something can be done’ suggestion to pull someone out of the dementia state. No go I am afraid and I shall just continue my palliative approach which keeps him contented and calm.
Sounds the best plan xxx
 

Mudgee Joy

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You are so right @Grahamstown - people think you can just fix it. I’ve had a horrible few days due to some sundowning that scared me - So i wonder if he is suffering some infection eg uti - so I have put him on a short course of antibiotics that doc gave me as a possible help - he is better tonight but fell over again today- maybe 4th fall this past 2 months - he has good bones .
Do let us hear how your holiday goes - I would like to enjoy every moment !!
 

Grahamstown

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Packing tomorrow for Tuesday, and all the clothes are ready. He is dropping food on his them these days and I have to wash quite a lot. My goodness I am relieved that I have finally realised that I cannot take him away again, because he is worsening physically and memory-wise all the time, quite a change from even five weeks ago. He will enjoy his ‘holiday’, and I shudder at the thought that I might have been taking him too. No more cruising for him but I did manage four with increasing difficulty with mobility, socialising and activities reduced to very little. He doesn’t mention it now so unless he is reminded he has forgotten and I think that will the case over the respite stay.
 

AliceA

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You are right to go alone, you made such an effort trying with the last.
We will follow your journey if you have time to post! Enjoy, enjoy enjoy! Xxx
 

Grahamstown

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Phase one of the respite operation which was the worst of days but went pretty smoothly. I left him resting after lunch with photos, books and two paintings from his bedroom to look at. He was worried about the paintings thinking they might be damaged or worse taken! He is a poor old man now and unable to understand what is going on, that he can’t come with me which he would be perfectly fine to do. I felt a great weight had been lifted off my shoulders as I went into town after lunch to get another hole punched in his belt and to the library without having to worry about him. I wouldn’t have gone anyway under the usual circumstances. I forgot something under the strain of packing for two but his key worker is coming here for tea to pick it up, she is such a sweetie. Phase two tomorrow as I now embark on a journey alone after all these years together.
 

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If you are happy sharing the name of the ship you will be on. Nitram posted a link to a program that tracks ships at sea and I saved it. I can find your ship and post a link, so we can all share in your journey. If you dont feel comfortable with sharing this information, I understand.
 

Grahamstown

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If you are happy sharing the name of the ship you will be on. Nitram posted a link to a program that tracks ships at sea and I saved it. I can find your ship and post a link, so we can all share in your journey. If you dont feel comfortable with sharing this information, I understand.
I am happy to share the ship’s name, it’s Viking Star, and I think some members will be pleased to follow the journey vicariously. I feel lucky to be able to go but I would have liked him to be with me, like he was exactly a year ago. There were a few difficulties then but a year has proved a step too far for him. The key worker came for tea, how lovely of her, and gave me a progress report which was reassuring. He thinks that it is a lovely ‘hotel’ very big and quiet, so far so good. My efforts to introduce him to the place gradually seem to have worked because he walked straight in for his coffee. He crashed out after I left and slept for a couple of hours and then went for a walk in the garden. The girls are fussing around him apparently because he is a very sweet man, unless you are dealing with him 24/7 which is so tiring. I can relax now and enjoy!
 

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