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Alzheimer's cold sore virus link

Discussion in 'Researchers, students and professionals' started by CraigC, Nov 1, 2007.

  1. CraigC

    CraigC Registered User

    Mar 21, 2003
    6,630
    London
    On the BBC Website today:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7071576.stm

    " The cold sore virus has been linked to Alzheimer's disease
    Evidence is building that the cold sore virus may be linked to Alzheimer's disease, an expert says. "
     
  2. Brucie

    Brucie Registered User

    Jan 31, 2004
    12,413
    near London
    It is interesting how the researchers come up with these things.

    Nina read to me yesterday that some researchers had found that women who get breast cancer are more than likely to own a dog, and that the dog may pass something on to them.

    We know 3 people who have had breast cancer and all three had dogs.... :confused:
     
  3. Grannie G

    Grannie G Volunteer Moderator

    Apr 3, 2006
    69,584
    Kent
    #3 Grannie G, Nov 1, 2007
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2007
    Perhaps we should have a Poll on how many sufferers on TP have a tendency to cold sores.

    Dhiren has never had a cold sore in his life. My mother never had a cold sore in her life either.
     
  4. Canadian Joanne

    Canadian Joanne Volunteer Moderator

    Apr 8, 2005
    16,110
    Toronto, Canada
    Here's my entry - as far as I'm aware, my mother has never had a cold sore. Maybe when she was a child but not in my memory.

    But the herpes family of viruses can lurk for decades in the body. Think of shingles - you must have had chicken pox at one time to develop shingles. Our bodies are so complex and everything is interrelated.
     
  5. jenniferpa

    jenniferpa Volunteer Moderator

    Jun 27, 2006
    39,439
    Mind you I'm always wary about these statistical analysis (analysese?) By adulthood close to 90% of the population has exposure to the HSV-1 virus, so I'm not sure it comes under the category of a smoking gun. In fact, if that 90% figure is really correct, the fact that 70% of people with AD show such exposure, surely a case could be made that in fact it exposure to the virus actually decrease your risk of catching AD (since if it was truly random you would expect AD patients to show the same level - i.e. 90%). I realise that exposure and finding it in the brain isn't necessarily the same thing though. It doesn't seem particularly new research either - this link was reported at least in 1997.

    As to dog ownership - there are all sorts of things that dog ownership exposes you to. Do you know if you own a dog you are 5 times (I think that was the number) more likely to find a dead body than a non dog owner? Not of course the ownership per se but the walking of a four legged sniffing machine is what causes that.
     
  6. TinaT

    TinaT Registered User

    Sep 27, 2006
    7,095
    Bolton
    I have had shingles and my husband had cold sores almost every winter! Makes one think eh?
     
  7. CraigC

    CraigC Registered User

    Mar 21, 2003
    6,630
    London
    As much as I hate to take a thread off topic, I cannot resist the discussions on dogs. Someone recently told me about a dog diagnosed with dementia.

    Well it seems that Canine Cognitive Dysfunction is well know and dogs too can suffer from dementia (old dog syndrome, brain aging, doggie dementia or senility).

    http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art25417.asp

    Learn something everyday - so you can teach and old dog tricks :)

    Like all of you, I'm a little sceptical about some of the research on alzheimer's particulary when time and money could be spent better elsewhere. However it does not harm to keep everyone informed of any research that crops up.

    Apologies for hijacking my own thread :eek:

    Kind Regards
    Craig
     
  8. towncrier

    towncrier Registered User

    Oct 14, 2007
    41
    Lancashire
    animal alzheimer's

    Just as I had decided to ask if anyone knew if animals suffer from dementias, Craig posted this very interesting information. Both his links are highly relevant. It seems that dogs indeed can show characteristics of dementia, and post mortem studies have shown that their brains also get gunged up with amyloid plaques. I am going to study the information in more detail before I ask any more questions, but I am very excited by this news, and hope the scientists will undertake animal and human studies jointly.:D
     
  9. Grommit

    Grommit Registered User

    Apr 26, 2006
    2,127
    Doncaster
    Just to put things into context:-

    A recent survey has found that the average person in Britain has 1.99 legs.

    Not surprising really when the researchers apparently found quite a few people with only one leg and absolutely no people with three legs.

    Can anyone remember the news story years back when Alzheimers disease was linked irrefutably to people who used aluminium cooking pans?
     
  10. Margarita

    Margarita Registered User

    Feb 17, 2006
    10,824
    london
    #10 Margarita, Dec 12, 2007
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2007
    My mother had Cold sores , also I get them :eek:


    yes please someone do a poll about cold sores

    Craig was reading that link about the dogs , so called out my dog name yes he remembered his name, looking at me when I called him :D
     
  11. Kayla

    Kayla Registered User

    May 14, 2006
    621
    Kent
    We once had a thirteen year old goat and the vet said that it was unusual for goats to live more than ten years.
    This goat had a strong heart and lungs, but she gave up the will to live and became very depressed. She just walked round and round in circles, refusing to eat anything and losing so much weight. The vet thought that she may have developed liver disease and toxins had damaged her brain, but we never knew for certain.
    I've heard of cats and dogs who have also lost their memory or start behaving in strange ways. It would be interesting to see if there are any similarities with dementia in people.
    We need to find out as much as possible about this awful disease so it can be treated or at least brought under control.

    Kayla
     
  12. Bubbles

    Bubbles Registered User

    Jun 4, 2008
    2
    Well my great Aunt has Alzheimer's and she never had a cold sore but her daughter did! Interesting.......
    :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
     
  13. lesmisralbles

    lesmisralbles Account Closed

    Nov 23, 2007
    5,543
    Better start making my will

    Cold sores:(
    Ron has never had one, nor shingles, nor chicken pox.
    Sorry folk's, another Red herring:(

    I, on the other hand, do get cold sores, now I think it was all down to a miss spent youth, (after all, I am a child of the 60's)

    If I beleived everthing I hear, I would go mad:mad:
    I ate a worm when I was a child, so mum tell's me, does that mean I will get worm's, well 60 year's later I am waiting.

    Take this message as the light hearted banter it is meant to be. I do not want to offen anyone (but, I am sure I have). But do not beleive everthing.

    Barb & Ron XX
     
  14. Bubbles

    Bubbles Registered User

    Jun 4, 2008
    2
    It's tru but mabye you met someone with a coleslaw.....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  15. christine_batch

    christine_batch Registered User

    Jul 31, 2007
    3,388
    Buckinghamshire
    Dear Grommit,
    I remember the aluminuim pans thread well. When the person wrote to me and said I caused my husband to have A.S. I was furious. Never used them. (Peter's ex wife did)!!!
    As for cold sores, Peter always on a monthly basis had one ???
    As for the person with 1.99 legs well the mind just boggles.
    Take case
    Christine
     
  16. Bristolbelle

    Bristolbelle Registered User

    Aug 18, 2006
    1,847
    Bristol
    cold cores

    Yep Mum and I have suffered from them for years. However something else struck me about the stats, the older you get the more likely you are to be exposed to the HSV virus AND develop alzeimhers purely because you have had an extended life span! Statistics were once described to me as "an exact science - that is no one knows exactly what they prove" lol.
     
  17. citybythesea

    citybythesea Registered User

    Mar 23, 2008
    632
    coast of texas
    ....imagine if aluminum does cause AZ. Boy oh boy will there be a spike in the U.S. thanx to sodas and beer and don't forget all the food packaged in Aluminum....:eek:


    (only kidding, do not believe the AZ and aluminum theory)


    HUGS

    Nancy
     
  18. Lynne

    Lynne Registered User

    Jun 3, 2005
    3,433
    Suffolk,England
    What about ...

    Artifical sweeteners?

    I should stress this is a line of thought based on absolutely no scientific research at all which I know of but just something that popped into my head; not terribly serious in the greater scheme of things. However, I'll float it for your reactions.

    Sweeteners were widely introduced to our diet in the 1940s, when war-time rationing of sugar was necessary - at the time it would have been saccharin. So the WW2 adult population (which would include my parents) & the 'war-baby' generation were heavily exposed to them. Food manufacturers adopted them into ready-made 'shop-bought' cakes etc. for reasons of cost so they stayed n our diet after rationing finished in the 1950s. Following on came the concept of Ready Meals and convenience foods, many loaded with preservatives, salt and yes - artificial sweeteners, now mainly NutraSweet, Aspartame & sodium saccharin.

    I've been eating this 'new generation' of food all my life, so I'm certainly not preaching about it. I'm probably the ideal guinea pig, if anyone wants to carve my body up when I'm finished with it!

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