Advice please! Certificate Provider for LPA

Discussion in 'I care for a person with dementia' started by Tubbsy, Aug 16, 2015.

  1. Tubbsy

    Tubbsy Registered User

    Sep 5, 2010
    108
    Surrey
    So at long last, I have bitten the bullet and am going full steam ahead with getting my mum to give my brother and I PoA! She really can't look after herself or her dog anymore and there is still that dodgy couple hanging around but I'm sure she's ok to know what she's signing at the time, so that makes it ok, right? I have asked her lifelong friend to be the Certificate Provider but he's worried he won't be acceptable to do so? Can anyone advise please? According to the notes online, it just needs to be someone who's known the donor more than 2 years....they've known each other for about 70 so I think he qualifies? :) Would also be useful to know if the same person can be the witness t men and my brothers signatures....I think he can but anyone with experience of these things kow for sure? Thanks peeps :)
     
  2. Girlonthehill

    Girlonthehill Registered User

    Jan 1, 2015
    32
    Dorset
    Lpa

    If you go online there www.gov.uk there is an excellent guide to completing an lpa. I have just done them for both my parents. The certificate provider can also be a witness. In the statement they suggest saying something like ' I have known ?? For x years and we have had many conversations"
    I was amazed at how simple it was to do online. You just fill in the relevant boxes, print it off, get it signed and there are at least 6 places to sign. The donor had to sign twice on the health and welfare and be witnessed twice, just once on the financial.

    It costs £110 to register each but much cheaper than £700 others seem to quote to do it


    Hope this helps
     
  3. Beate

    Beate Registered User

    May 21, 2014
    11,481
    Female
    London
    Her lifelong friend would be absolutely perfect as a certificate provider.
    I am pretty sure that the same person can be used as witness. Attorneys can also witness each other.
     
  4. Tubbsy

    Tubbsy Registered User

    Sep 5, 2010
    108
    Surrey
    Thanks :) Yes, I've filled out the online form but it seemed too easy to be true and just wanted to be able to tell my mum's friend I was certain he'd be fine to be the certificate provider. He's 85 and was my dad's lifelong best friend until he died 20 years ago and he also introduced my mum and dad to each other in about 1950! Thanksof or the reassurance :)
     
  5. Tubbsy

    Tubbsy Registered User

    Sep 5, 2010
    108
    Surrey
    Thank you Beate :)
     
  6. Bod

    Bod Registered User

    Aug 30, 2013
    1,112
    Use their GP.
    The doctors opinion will not be questioned. Others may be if Social Services get involved.

    Bod
     
  7. Beate

    Beate Registered User

    May 21, 2014
    11,481
    Female
    London
    I doubt SS can question a properly registered POA unless they suspect fraud going on. And that could happen with a GP as certificate provider as well. Besides, not every GP is willing to do this anyway. Ours wasn't.
     
  8. LYN T

    LYN T Registered User

    Aug 30, 2012
    6,967
    Brixham Devon
    Pete's friend of nearly 30 years was the certificate provider -no questions and all above board.

    Go for it.

    Take care

    Lyn T XX
     
  9. Pegsdaughter

    Pegsdaughter Registered User

    Oct 7, 2014
    129
    London
    We used my mothers next door neighbour of 40 years. No problems.


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  10. Katrine

    Katrine Registered User

    Jan 20, 2011
    2,856
    England
    Thank goodness you mentioned signing and witnessing twice on the H&W! I realised that I had not got Section 5 signed and witnessed (Life sustaining treatment). It isn't flagged up sufficiently in the guidance. Thank you so much Girlonthehill. :)
     
  11. sheelz

    sheelz Registered User

    Sep 1, 2014
    35
    We have just done both LPAs for our mum, we used her neighbour who has known her for 40 + years, filled the forms on line and put in the box - I have lived next door to ...... And known .......as a neighbour for 40+ years. Also don't forget the dates have to be in the right order when signed. Ps because we did it on line and didn't go through a solicitor I did worry it would be wrong but everything was fine, and we saved loads of money !! And they also confirm receipt of the forms and how long you have to wait if you put your email address too.
     

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