Hi everyone not posted for a while, but read postings most days. Bad day today hubbys job has been terminated due to ill health !!! He was doing really well, only washing up, he used to be a chef, but they say they have a business to run and they can't take the chance he may deteriorate, we have both fought so hard, bless him he went straight back to his job and carried on ...
so proud of my hubby.
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I am sorry but I don't think this is legal.
http://www.alzheimers.org.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?documentID=1836
The Equality Act requires employers to make reasonable adjustments for people with disabilities and Alzheimer's Society calls for full implementation of the Act. There are ways that employers can make adjustments to support an employee diagnosed with dementia, for example, by reallocating a task to another employee, or moving their desk to a quieter area. There should be a discussion of a variety of options to support the person to stay in work, such as a shift in responsibilities or flexible working arrangements. Where a reasonable adjustment cannot be easily identified or where specialist advice or assessment is needed, employers should seek further advice. Employers must not use a diagnosis of dementia to force someone to leave work.
Here is a good summary: http://www.lawson-west.co.uk/lawyers-for-people/employment/equality-at-work-alzheimers/
Unless they have taken all the reasonable steps, please fight this.
http://www.alzheimers.org.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?documentID=1836
The Equality Act requires employers to make reasonable adjustments for people with disabilities and Alzheimer's Society calls for full implementation of the Act. There are ways that employers can make adjustments to support an employee diagnosed with dementia, for example, by reallocating a task to another employee, or moving their desk to a quieter area. There should be a discussion of a variety of options to support the person to stay in work, such as a shift in responsibilities or flexible working arrangements. Where a reasonable adjustment cannot be easily identified or where specialist advice or assessment is needed, employers should seek further advice. Employers must not use a diagnosis of dementia to force someone to leave work.
Here is a good summary: http://www.lawson-west.co.uk/lawyers-for-people/employment/equality-at-work-alzheimers/
Unless they have taken all the reasonable steps, please fight this.
Hi Brannybob 
What a sad day for you both....
I'd be proud of your husband too. Re his employers, I guess it boils down to whether they have made all reasonable adjustments to enable him to continue to work ( thinking here of the Equality Act as mentioned by Beate).
Do you feel the employers have been reasonable? If so, I guess it's something to sadly accept. Maybe your husband could look for paid or voluntary work elsewhere? He sounds like someone who needs to be useful
Good on him Good on you both
Lindy xx
What a sad day for you both....
I'd be proud of your husband too. Re his employers, I guess it boils down to whether they have made all reasonable adjustments to enable him to continue to work ( thinking here of the Equality Act as mentioned by Beate).
Do you feel the employers have been reasonable? If so, I guess it's something to sadly accept. Maybe your husband could look for paid or voluntary work elsewhere? He sounds like someone who needs to be useful
Good on him
Good on you both Lindy xx
Hi everyone, thank you for your comments, the firm say that they have given him 18 months, we cut down his hours and changed to washing up from being a chef, the last few months have been settled but there pre empting his illness. The only thing he does wrong sometimes is put a pan in the wrong place!!! There was a women from head office at the meeting who ee had never met before the usual lady from HR wasn't there.
Hi everyone, thank you for your comments, the firm say that they have given him 18 months, we cut down his hours and changed to washing up from being a chef, the last few months have been settled but there pre empting his illness. The only thing he does wrong sometimes is put a pan in the wrong place!!! There was a women from head office at the meeting who we had never met before the usual lady from HR wasn't there.
Hi Brannybob
Ah, so the usual HR wasn't there. Is she still in post? Can you speak to her? Can she still affect the situation?
Re Beate's post, no, I don't believe they are entitled to 'pre-empt' his condition
However, I would tread gently because if you know you won't realistically be able to change the situation, getting angry may not help your hubby?? Whereas he does deserve your pride, I feel 100%
Difficult one ......xx
Ah, so the usual HR wasn't there. Is she still in post? Can you speak to her? Can she still affect the situation?
Re Beate's post, no, I don't believe they are entitled to 'pre-empt' his condition
However, I would tread gently because if you know you won't realistically be able to change the situation, getting angry may not help your hubby?? Whereas he does deserve your pride, I feel
100% Difficult one ......xx
Some employers forget that they have a duty of care for employees.
I am a school teacher. I became aware that I really couldn't manage any longer and recently approached my employer for advice.
I am lucky that I am able to apply to Teachers Pensions for Ill Health Retirement. This process goes on.
In the meantime my very supportive GP has signed me off work. My absence has triggered reasonable level monitoring, and guess what? My employer has started down a disciplinary route.
My Union quoted the DA as one person in this thread has said, and is pursuing things for me.
I'm not sure I can cope with the confusion and stress of it all.
I do wish I could go back to work, and I think you are right to be proud of your husband that he did that
I am a school teacher. I became aware that I really couldn't manage any longer and recently approached my employer for advice.
I am lucky that I am able to apply to Teachers Pensions for Ill Health Retirement. This process goes on.
In the meantime my very supportive GP has signed me off work. My absence has triggered reasonable level monitoring, and guess what? My employer has started down a disciplinary route.
My Union quoted the DA as one person in this thread has said, and is pursuing things for me.
I'm not sure I can cope with the confusion and stress of it all.
I do wish I could go back to work, and I think you are right to be proud of your husband that he did that
This kind of approach is scandalous. I'm glad you involved the union though I have to say that my wife's union (she was a teacher) were involved at an early stage but the Local Authority so mismanaged the application for ill-health retirement that we had to appeal (with the union's support). The appeal was successful but the LA only apologised for one error in the process (there were many!) and then late and grudgingly. I did all the work - by that stage my wife couldn't cope with it at all - and I remember one council official, when discussing my wife's dementia said, 'These things come and go'!!!!
Probably it was good that I was on the other end of a phone line and not talking face-to-face.I think that some employers count on the fact that the process wears people down until they give in. I hope you can cope with it all John. All the best.
Hope you don't mind this slight diversion Brannybob. I also think that you are right to be proud of your husband. But I also agree with others that the employer can't use dismissal because they know that your husband's condition will deteriorate further at some point.
Just had to pop in again to say that it seems to me that your husband has done everything possible to continue as a useful employee. What a slap in the face it is for him to be treated like this!
If he can manage his current role, imo he should be enabled to continue to do so. There you go, I said anger wouldn't help and here I am getting angry myself
You will know the details and what's best
Just know we're all here supporting you Lindy xx
John, I am sorry that you having such a bad time
I think you should feel proud that you took a principled decision about your role as a teacher. I do hope that you get what you deserve....ill health retirement and a decent pension ( which of course you have been paying into).
Good luck to you
Lindy xx
Hugs to you both.
Maybe you can use the extra time you both have together to do what might not be possible later on ...
Lack of money might be an obstacle but some fun things are fairly cost-free (eg walks together, having friends over for coffee and biscuits and the like).
Maybe you can use the extra time you both have together to do what might not be possible later on ...
Lack of money might be an obstacle but some fun things are fairly cost-free (eg walks together, having friends over for coffee and biscuits and the like).
