Support or lack or it

xyz

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Hi Everyone!!

Why is it when it all hits the fan no one from the family are there to help? I wish for once instead of criticising, patronising, condescending and making a bunch of unhelpful remarks my brother and sister would muck in and help/support me with my folks. It really upsets me that I'm left to do it all and when I turn to either its always brushed of as through my feeling don't matter. Its bad enough that I had to deal with the recent DVLA fiasco and the mood swings and my mums erratic behaviour and my dads alzheimer's progressing.


Its a long one but I'm so annoyed....so this is my release.....Hope it makes sense.

Neither siblings lives near or knows what's going on unless I'm calling them to tell them. If I stop they know nothing. I don't speak to my brother much because he dictates and is a control freak. I raised the point of having a family meeting in October as things were worse. My brother came out with every excuse not to come and then told me I have nothing better to do indirectly saying deal with it (bearing in mind I play cook, cleaner, medic- you guys know what its like...).He called me selfish and mocked me for getting my dad diagnosed with v.alzheimers. Since Oct he has not once got in touch to see how I'm doing. He has texted my sister this week to instigate a family meeting in Dec when it suits him- control game. He wants all 4 of us to fly there (folks, me and my sister). He lives abroad. I'm not going, he doesn't listen to anything I have to say instead wants to put dad in a home and says he will get the upstairs window confused with the front door and jump??!! Seriously, how would he know this if he doesn't attend any appts or ask me how my dad is doing. It would make sense he came here as opposed to 4 people flying there.

My sister gets angry and I don't feel like she is supportive, its radio silence or a bunch of daft ideas. I don't understand why she would be angry when again I'm dealing with two mentally unstable parents, she gets to live her life. Thinking about home is not the same as living at home dealing with it in the thick of it. I've asked both siblings for help but it never happens. If I don't ring, they don't ring....so long as none of this impacts on their lives its simply dandy. They want to take no responsibility for OUR parents.

My mum is still playing games. Folks were invited to my brothers for Xmas earlier. Both were keen and so I investigated the tickets. It costs a lot from the nearest airport but cheaper from Heathrow. I suggested they get the coach to heathrow and fly as its half price. My mum doesn't want to go on the coach...she's acting like a princess. My mum then started making excuses ranging from paranoia- 'if I'm the problem I'll go', to its expensive (fact) so I'd rather go on another holiday next year, to my dad hasn't booked time of work (when he has). Something didn't add up she is always keen to go to her sons. I think he has pulled her up on her behaviour and therefore she doesn't want to go. My brother is the one person who wont put up with my mums behaviour and she kind of listens to him...hence the reluctance. She told my dad she doesn't want to go anymore. My brother rang yesterday and my mum told him my dad cant make up his mind. My dad has no issue with going only the oct as he is the only bread winner. I hate the way he is made to look like its his fault due to my mums manipulative behaviour.

I told my sister, she sent an email to my brother explaining what was going on and it is mum not dad who cant decide and that my mum is blaming dad...and not to have a go at my dad when they speak. My brother has a tendency to rip my dad to shreds. My brother sends a reply saying he doesn't like this 'he said, she said' stuff and that 'Its Christmas and to enjoy it forgetting everyone self obsessed issues'. Self obsessed, really??



He continues saying my sister, like him are not at home, therefore you cannot take sides no matter what. He says I am and I must and always take the middle ground you are a guest not replacing mum or dad. If they ask for help, help. Otherwise do your own thing. If your efforts are 20% for dad then they should also be 20% for mum.



The 'Guest in their house' bit really annoyed me. I feel like walking out and cutting everyone off from the family. I've don't more than my brother and sister and this is thanks I get. My brother isn't interested on what is going on or able to advise on issues or he would be getting in touch. I kept in touch with him over home issue until very recently when he stared saying unfounded things. I'm trying to protect my dad from my mum. I'm not taking sides. I'm currently not talking to my mum after she abused me over the dvla forms and rang the hospital acting like a victim.



I need to vent.....I don't know what to do, I'm tired and this isn't even the beginning......

Any advice?

Thanks
 

2jays

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Folks were invited to my brothers for Xmas earlier. Both were keen and so I investigated the tickets. It costs a lot from the nearest airport

if they can afford flight from nearest airport.... Send them off with a one way ticket with a wave and a smile...

Ohhhhhh siblings!!!!!!
 

xyz

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if they can afford flight from nearest airport.... Send them off with a one way ticket with a wave and a smile...

Ohhhhhh siblings!!!!!!

Hi 2Jays!


Hope your not hung over after yesterdays 'virtual' party. It was such a hoot, thank you!!


You made me giggle, if only that would be so funny...bon voyage!


My brother doesn't want to look after them on have the folks infringing on his life style in anyway. He seems to think I'm to daft to realise but to me its crystal clear......


Think my dad will get roped into paying £350 x 2 to go and a peaceful life. Worries me.


Yep, siblings who would have 'em!
 

2jays

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On my phone so can't remember how to put in picture of a

((BIG HUG))

If dad can afford the flight costs - pay them!!! and try to enjoy the time they are away and rebuild your strength. See it as respite? Respite here would Cost a lot more than the £300 odd.

Whilst they are away, you may get time to sort the sibling/parent/alzheimers mess that is happening without distraction?? Oh how easy those words were to type. .. If only easy to do...
Xx
 

xyz

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On my phone so can't remember how to put in picture of a

((BIG HUG))

If dad can afford the flight costs - pay them!!! and try to enjoy the time they are away and rebuild your strength. See it as respite? Respite here would Cost a lot more than the £300 odd.

Whilst they are away, you may get time to sort the sibling/parent/alzheimers mess that is happening without distraction?? Oh how easy those words were to type. .. If only easy to do...
Xx

Thank you for the hug, need it!


True respite is so expensive and I would love to have the place to myself over Xmas, no one to worry about but me, the joy!

My dad cant afford, he only want to go if I can find cheap tickets (cheapest is £150 from Heathrow but my mum doesn't want to fly from there) but I have the feeling he will bow down to peer pressure, anything to keep my mum happy.


I know what you mean, doesn't matter because I still appreciate your reply!


I need a wand.
xx
 

2jays

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Think we need to get the party started again!:(

Had a thought - no idea how far you are from heathrow but instead of coach do you know how much a taxi would cost - as I say just a thought and with my hangover still hanging around might be a silly idea xx
 

bunnies

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You are clearly in the middle of a complex and stressful situation. You may not want to think about this, but it seems to me that it can only get more and more difficult for all of you. Wouldn't it be better if you lived somewhere else? I know you will say then, who will look after your Dad - but it is much likelier in the future that your parents get help from outside if you are not there. You need to have your own life too...
 

xyz

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Think we need to get the party started again!:(

Had a thought - no idea how far you are from heathrow but instead of coach do you know how much a taxi would cost - as I say just a thought and with my hangover still hanging around might be a silly idea xx

Hi 2jays


Sorry for the delay. Another party would be super, it was just the escape we all needed!


Thanks for the suggestion, I looked into this and a taxi cost £120 one way, madness. Its £80 return for two on the coach.

Spoke to my dad for the brief 30seconds that he can be in my room without my mum catching him. He says its too expensive and doesn't want to go although will suggest to my mum if she wants to go he will get her ticket flying from the local more expensive airport. Personally I don't think she will go on her own.


My dad is on holiday from work mid Dec so I have the feeling I will be posting more dramas.


Hope you are ok,


xx
 

xyz

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You are clearly in the middle of a complex and stressful situation. You may not want to think about this, but it seems to me that it can only get more and more difficult for all of you. Wouldn't it be better if you lived somewhere else? I know you will say then, who will look after your Dad - but it is much likelier in the future that your parents get help from outside if you are not there. You need to have your own life too...

Hi Bunnies,


Thanks for your reply. Totally agree and sadly aware things are just going to get difficult than they already are. You got me, that's my concern- dad. Thing is neither think anything is wrong so they wouldn't ask for help, pride and all that. The help they already have- social worker visits, psychologist appts, food delivery for dad has been organised by me. I'm actually looking into moving out being unemployed isn't helping but I may just have to stay with friends for a bit because I cant take this anymore. I feel so drained and stressed all the time, its not healthy.


I've packed a bag of things already in the instance I have to walk out. Then mum can have her wicked way and dad can well, forget us and get more confused than he is. As it is he is too scared to talk to me because he may get caught by my mum. Its such a bad situation and the tension is unreal. I feel like I'll hurt my dad moving out and give him more to stress about. Guilt eats away.
 

Katrine

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Sounds as if your dad might welcome a quieter time without mum for a little while? I would encourage her to go. If she is afraid to travel on her own then the airline can help with escorting passengers who need extra support.
 

2jays

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Thanks for the suggestion, I looked into this and a taxi cost £120 one way, madness. Its £80 return for two on the coach.

ohhhh agggghhhh hurumph - these are words of support honest!

My dad is on holiday from work mid Dec so I have the feeling I will be posting more dramas. Hope you are ok,

Will be here

HUGS.JPG
 

Chemmy

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Can't help agreeing with Bunnies. Why not move out temporarily, say for a week and see how it goes? If nothing else, it'd give you the break you clearly so badly need.

I hate to say it but lots of couples this age have marital difficulties, whether there's dementia involved or not. Maybe you just have to let them resolve it in their own way, keeping an eye on things in case it reaches crisis point. Then call in the authorities; don't try and cope on your own again.
 
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xyz

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Sounds as if your dad might welcome a quieter time without mum for a little while? I would encourage her to go. If she is afraid to travel on her own then the airline can help with escorting passengers who need extra support.

Hi Katrine,


Spot on, I think my dad will really enjoy it without my mum. My sister wont come home if my mum is here because she doesn't get on with her and my dad doesn't get to see my sister as she isn't local. However my sister said if mum isn't here she will come home over Xmas which means she can take some of the strain of me. I suggested to dad we could do a few fun things together...daft things that he enjoys- go to the park feed the ducks, go and see family friends that no longer visit because my mum is so rude to them, go out and about somewhere local, watch a movie or tv programmes dad enjoys together....basically I want to create memories.


Thanks, the airlines are normally very good with that. I usually arrange wheelchair access for my mum on the train and airport....she's used to flying to my brothers....but for some reason she is reluctant to go this time.


I did encourage her a few weeks ago (when we were speaking) but she made one excuse after another and I didn't want her to feel I was trying to get rid of her but then she said 'if I'm the problem I'll go' how I wanted to say YES, please go!! They also leave booking tickets till the last minute which means what was a reasonably expensive ticket has increased in price ten fold nearer to the time.


Honestly you would think it was the krypton factor.
 

xyz

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Can't help agreeing with Bunnies. Why not move out temporarily, say for a week and see how it goes? If nothing else, I'll give you the break you clearly so badly need.

I hate to say it but lots of couples this age have marital difficulties, whether there's dementia involved or not. Maybe you just have to let them resolve it in their own way, keeping an eye on things in case it reaches crisis point. Then call in the authorities; don't try and cope on your own again.

I do need a break, just to feel refreshed and healthy. Does it sound bad but I want someone to look after me for a bit....maybe we all get like that at times.


I think its good advice, I will have a chat with a couple of friends and see who is about for a little break.


Its true what you say about couple and martial differences. I think I make things worse getting involved or protecting dad..... Maybe time on their own and time out for me is the way forward.


Thanks
 

Chemmy

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I'm guessing (as your dad is still working) that my husband and I are about the same age as your parents. Both our kids moved back in after uni - and quite honestly, much as I love them dearly, I couldn't wait to see the back of them. We even encouraged my daughter to move in with her boyfriend as the idea of them both living here at the same time, with the inevitable sibling rivalry, was unthinkable :D

Don't feel guilty about wanting your own space and your own life; as someone said on another thread, parents will always feel responsibility for their children but that does not mean that children are responsible for their parents.
 

ooster22

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Make sure you DO talk to your friends about staying with them for a bit - even if you can just 'escape' for a few days it is bound to help. If it is not financially possible for you to move out permanently at least give yourself a break and have some time to yourself - you so DESERVE IT.

See you at the next party!!!

(((((hugs))))) xxx
 

xyz

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I'm guessing (as your dad is still working) that my husband and I are about the same age as your parents. Both our kids moved back in after uni - and quite honestly, much as I love them dearly, I couldn't wait to see the back of them. We even encouraged my daughter to move in with her boyfriend as the idea of them both living here at the same time, with the inevitable sibling rivalry, was unthinkable :D

Don't feel guilty about wanting your own space and your own life; as someone said on another thread, parents will always feel responsibility for their children but that does not mean that children are responsible for their parents.

Hi Chemmy,


My dad is 70yrs and mum 67yrs and I'm mid 30's. I often think they are fed up with me being at home. I'd go out more but my mum throws a tantrum every time and makes me feel guilty so I dont, then stops talking to me. If I cancel my plans she comment 'well, that life'. I want to say - no, that's your life! I should ignore her and go. I moved out when I was 18yrs- went to uni, worked and moved back 2 yrs ago which is when my mum had her TIA and op etc then I got dad diagnosed. Its been non stop with one illness after another. Recently cancelled my sinus op' because I knew I wouldn't have a peaceful place to recover, not that the folks understand.


I can understand what your saying, I guess its nice to have your own space and home back in the sweetest way. Its good to have an alternative perspective. That saying strikes a chord 'parents will always feel responsibility for their children but that does not mean that children are responsible for their parents'. I do feel like the parent...its only when they go to bed I can spend my time on the net job hunting etc.


Thanks for listening...you all keep me sane!!
 

xyz

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Make sure you DO talk to your friends about staying with them for a bit - even if you can just 'escape' for a few days it is bound to help. If it is not financially possible for you to move out permanently at least give yourself a break and have some time to yourself - you so DESERVE IT.

See you at the next party!!!

(((((hugs))))) xxx

Hi Ooster22,


I promise I will, I have two friends I may be able to stay with. I'll try tracking them down tonight and see if its ok for me to stay over. I think a short break will help. I just want to have a laugh and talk about fun things.....distraction. Ideally a permanent move would be best but in this climate, a job comes first then the move.


Wonderful, I cant wait till the next party to get my glad rags on!!


Thank you!



xx