my 80yr old brothers wife went to a day centre as per usual but she was taken from there and put into care,the first he was aware of this was when 2 social workers called on him as he was preparing the evening meal for her return,they told him that she was being removed from him for her own safety as they thought there was abuse.they will not tell him where she is only that when she says she wants too see him then he can.i live 300 miles away from them and i wouldnt have thought that there was abuse as they have been together since both were 15 and have no children.i phoned up the local mental heath care and they would not tell me where she is and when i asked to visit i was told that i would have too wait for my sister in laws permission which i was told she is capable of making as she has been tested!can anyone please tell me if they have the right to keep relatives away from visiting.my brother is not eating and is getting confused and its heartbreaking to view.......thank you for any help
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How dreadful, Manfas, I am glad you have found TP to help you.
Presumably your sister in law has some kind of dementia? If she has then one of the problems is that sufferers have these ideas of unpleasant things that people have done, my mum invented all sorts of things about people stealing from her etc which were most upsetting (and not true).
I am not sure where your brother stands legally but I think he should seek some urgent advice, and would suggest he rings either the Alzheimers society, his local branch which you will find somewhere on the website, or Age UK who I think may well be very helpful. I have consulted both these organisations about things and they have been just lovely.
Someone will come along soon who should be able to give better advice than this, but I would like to send sympathy and hope that things are sorted out soon.
Pippa x
Presumably your sister in law has some kind of dementia? If she has then one of the problems is that sufferers have these ideas of unpleasant things that people have done, my mum invented all sorts of things about people stealing from her etc which were most upsetting (and not true).
I am not sure where your brother stands legally but I think he should seek some urgent advice, and would suggest he rings either the Alzheimers society, his local branch which you will find somewhere on the website, or Age UK who I think may well be very helpful. I have consulted both these organisations about things and they have been just lovely.
Someone will come along soon who should be able to give better advice than this, but I would like to send sympathy and hope that things are sorted out soon.
Pippa x
I would totally agree with Pippa.
It's very unfortunate this is a holiday weekend. I think your brother is going to need extremely effective legal representation.
It's very unfortunate this is a holiday weekend. I think your brother is going to need extremely effective legal representation.
Hi, i think that is awful. He must be worried sick. The only thing i can think of is to get back on to the SS and ask what it is theyre investigating and why. Its only right that he should know whats going on and what he can do about it. Legal advice would also be advisable. Is he himself capable of making enquiries or is there someone closer (geographically) that can go with him for moral support. He really should have a witness to anything being said about or to him.
Call a solicitor and ask for emergency representation, initially for yourself because you are being refused contact with a person you believe you have a right to be in touch with.
Most solicitors will offer an emergency service. It maybe free.
If you have a solicitor you know and trust, use them, they will contact a specialist if need be. Be determined, some things cannot wait till after a Bank Holiday - in my opinion deprivation of liberty is one of those. Has the person who has been removed consented? Are they legally capable of giving consent? If they cannot give consent have their rights been properly protected?
It is very likely that what has been done is legal and in the best interests of all concerned, in which case the process and decisions taken will stand up to legal scrutiny.
If one needs a solicitor and one is in England or Wales, one can be found via The Law Society Website. (Sorry - even though it maybe evident I cannot as I type see the location of the opening poster). In other parts of the UK there are similar legal services, but I am not familiar with the ways to access them.
http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/choosingandusing/findasolicitor.law
For specialist Mental Health Legal Advice contact MIND
http://www.mind.org.uk/help/advice_lines
I do not know if they can respond during a Bank Holiday but hope they can, similarly Age UK may well be able to give immediate help as has also been suggested.
Most solicitors will offer an emergency service. It maybe free.
If you have a solicitor you know and trust, use them, they will contact a specialist if need be. Be determined, some things cannot wait till after a Bank Holiday - in my opinion deprivation of liberty is one of those. Has the person who has been removed consented? Are they legally capable of giving consent? If they cannot give consent have their rights been properly protected?
It is very likely that what has been done is legal and in the best interests of all concerned, in which case the process and decisions taken will stand up to legal scrutiny.
If one needs a solicitor and one is in England or Wales, one can be found via The Law Society Website. (Sorry - even though it maybe evident I cannot as I type see the location of the opening poster). In other parts of the UK there are similar legal services, but I am not familiar with the ways to access them.
http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/choosingandusing/findasolicitor.law
For specialist Mental Health Legal Advice contact MIND
http://www.mind.org.uk/help/advice_lines
I do not know if they can respond during a Bank Holiday but hope they can, similarly Age UK may well be able to give immediate help as has also been suggested.
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i agree with you
i phoned the mental health trust and they told me that they wont discuss it with me as i am a third party when i told her that she would have too if anything happened to my brother as i am their only relative she told me i was being abusive and put the phone down! these people have too much power and no humanity,going see about legal advice today..........many thanks for your help
i phoned the mental health trust and they told me that they wont discuss it with me as i am a third party when i told her that she would have too if anything happened to my brother as i am their only relative she told me i was being abusive and put the phone down! these people have too much power and no humanity,going see about legal advice today..........many thanks for your help
