Newbie - one thing after another.....

Cassandra69

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Sep 17, 2017
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Hello all,

I have been browsing this forum and have found it really helpful while I have been the main carer for my mother-in-law, who has mixed dementia with Alzheimers, and who came to live with myself and my partner in February 2016.

To be fair, her dementia is sometimes no more difficult to deal with than it was caring for my son when he was a toddler - the emotional aspect of her decline is more distressing than many of the practical issues and I find I have achieved a level of detached stoicism most of the time; my partner, because it his Mum obviously is very much more distressed by the progression and sometimes needs alot of support. Sometimes vodka is our friend. (Not to too much excess obviously).

We live a fairly unconventional lifestyle - my partner has a specialist career and I run an alternative shop which means my mother-in-law comes to work with me and can be safe and comfortable; she has just started going to the Day Centre three days a week so we are very grateful for the opportunity to be able to catch up with the things that are difficult to achieve when there has to be a cup of tea made or guidance to the toilet every 20 - 30 minutes....you guys obviously know how it is....

We live in a shared house with my son, his best friend and the best friends younger brother - they are all in their 20s and I have been involved in helping care for the best friend and younger brother since their early teens when their mother died suddenly of a brain aneurysm and their step-father took refuge in the bottom of a wine bottle before his death about 18 months ago....all very complicated. Another friend also lives in the house, and to be fair, they all help as much as they can to keep an eye on MIL when we have to go out.

My partner and I have been together nearly 7 years, and MIL was diagnosed formally about 2.5 years ago, but the signs were there for about 4. We got together technically on the rebound after his and my marriages failed quite spectacularly (on my side particularly the end was pretty traumatic but this will turn into War and Peace if I try to write the quite frankly unbelievable saga down). Our relationship is very strong however, and I am confident we can weather the storm.

However, life has just thrown us yet another curve ball.

We are both only children, and we have six parents between us - my Mum and his are both single, bother our fathers have new wives. His father and step-mother live some distance away - his father has recently overcome throat cancer but has digestive issues, and his step-mother has depression. My father has splenic lymphoma, a rare blood cancer that has caused him to have his spleen removed - this may be due to the fact that he is a nuclear test veteran in the 50s, and is now involved in the class action against the government trying to get compensation - but that's a whole other ball of wax. He has also had a major heart attack and in the last year has had his fourth stent put in...resulting in a bleed that nearly killed him but fortunately he is rallying and cares for my step-mother - who - wait for it - has paranoid schizo affective disorder and vascular dementia (no, I know, you couldn't make this stuff up). They live locally but have a fairly insular routine so I don't get to see them very often, which I fell pretty guilty about.

Now for the clincher; I have been very lucky that until now my mother, who lives close by fortunately, has been fairly healthy despite "IBS", vagal vasa issues, and arthritis. However, this week she summoned myself and my son to see her, and it turns out that the suspected "oestrogen" issues that she has been tested for are in fact cancer.....terminal cancer. She had a biopsy done on Friday and the results will be available some time this week, but she has already been told that surgery is not an option as it is in the odentum and the lungs already. It sounds as though it may be ovarian cancer as her younger sister passed from that nearly ten tears ago. Basically, it's terminal, and prognosis is anything from a few months to five years depending on chemo etc.....she is being very stoic and robust and my son and I are trying to follow her lead, but to be honest, I feel completely detached from reality and as though I have been hollowed out with a blunt melon baller. Excuse my gallows humour, but if I don't speak about it like this, I may just crawl under my desk and never come out.

Obviously we cannot disclose this to my MIL - no point in distressing her or me by it sticking in her head to the point where we have to have 5 million conversations an hour on the subject.

So I am trying to carry on with business as usual, my partner is trying to be supportive but of course it's another blindside from the universe, especially as there is a higher risk of it being genetic as both mother and aunt have succumbed, and I have now had to promise to go and get tested asap.....although I don't want to know!

I have already been through early menopause and am out the other side at 48, but now I am wondering if this could be related....

So I am plastering a smile on, drinking slightly too much, smoking for England (yes, totally counter-productive but more socially acceptable than running naked and screaming through the streets) and coming here to off load because I couldn't think of anywhere else safe where people will at least understand that my dementia related sweetness and light quota may be a little light for a while.....

Thank you so much for your tolerance....I read about your stories and feel for you all so much....hugs to you all xxx
 

Shedrech

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Dec 15, 2012
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hello Cassandra69
a very warm welcome to TP
so glad you have found this supportive, sympathetic and knowledgeable community as it certainly sounds as though you need a safe somewhere to offload
I hope it has helped to write out your situation
I take my hat off to you and bow low - I hope those around you appreciate how amazing you are - what am I saying, no doubt they mostly take you for granted, so I hope at least you get a hug and bit of a treat once in a while
keep posting - let us know how the tests go - fingers crossed
best wishes
 

Oh Knickers

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Nov 19, 2016
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Hi Cassandra,

Welcome to Talking Point. Please, offload here whenever you need to. There is a lot of wisdom here.

Appropriate name BTW. Sorry to read your news, especially that regarding your mum. How you are still standing is a miracle in itself. Like the gallows humour about running naked, screaming down the street.

If this isn't a case for getting help with Mil (Mother in Law) I don't know what would be. After a chat with Alzheimers and Age UK, it might be worthwhile to alert SS (Social Services) that you are at risk of carer breakdown.

You need to have the time to assimilate what is happening, going to happen with your mum. Also to assimilate having 'the test' yourself.

Life can be a tough old game at times. As I tell my children, life is a rich tapestry and some of can be s**t coloured.

Please contact some of the organisations below. I have found them founts of knowledge, pools of sanity and good placed to offload. Sounds as though you are needing all of that at the moment. Do not hold back. There is so much going on for you.

For the first two scroll down and put your postcode in. The local contact number will come up. They will have good local knowledge and will be able to guide you.

Alzheimers Society
https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/

Age UK
http://www.ageuk.org.uk/

Admiral Nurses
https://www.dementiauk.org/get-support/find-an-admiral-nurse/

Macmillan Nurses
https://www.macmillan.org.uk/in-your-area/choose-location.html

Cruse
https://www.cruse.org.uk/

Very best of luck and please keep posting.
 

mab

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Mar 6, 2010
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OOPH!
What a terrible catalogue of horrors for you.
If 'it never rains, but it pours' then you sound to be in the eye of hurricane Irma!!
You appear to have a good supportive network and how you will need them. Accept all the support they are willing to offer.
Whilst there are no easy answers to your situation I just wanted to let you know I've read your post and am incredibly moved by it.
Right now is time to take stock.... and the most important thing you can do is to take care of yourself, first and foremost.
Others, far more articulate than me, will respond with many wise words. Until then, please know that we're reading your story and caring about you.
 

jknight

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Oct 23, 2015
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Oh, Cassandra69,

What an awful time of it, you are having. I can't offer any advice but I can offer heartfelt support!
You have found your way to the most wonderfully supportive community. Welcome!
Jenny x
 

DollyBird16

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Sep 5, 2017
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Oh my word, you really have been given a tough hand.
I love your humour and get the just let me have a vodka - please.
I'm pleased the boys help where they can - that's special.
Hats right off to you for caring for them.
I wish you all the best, keep posting just writing it down makes a huge difference. I wrote to my friend today saying 'Today is not good' followed by 'I feel better now'
Stay in touch please - selfish in my part your humour will give me sanity through this wild rollercoaster.

Take care of you most important.
 

cragmaid

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Oct 18, 2010
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Good Lord, were you born under an unlucky star or it a case of having the broadest shoulders;)

Right... a couple of bits of practical advice here.

DO NOT ( sorry not shouting, but being assertive) take on anything more than you know ( not think:rolleyes:) you can cope with.

By all means promise Mum that you'll get tested, just don't say when. You don't have to if you don't want to, just keep an eye on your own health and don't hang about if you have any doubts.... ( and sadly, yep keep a reasonable eye on the booze and fags intake;);) says she who took 40 years to give up the fags:rolleyes::rolleyes:)

As far as Mum's prognosis is concerned.... get the paperwork sorted asap ie POA or at least third party mandate so that you can legally help with her financial affairs and if you also go with Power of Attorney for Health and Welfare, then you will know what Mum's wishes are for Palliative care etc.

With regards to MIL, I presume I'm right here this is your MIl from your failed marriage? Do you or does anyone else have POA for her or is she too far short of capacity to sign the forms now? If she has not given anyone POA then someone needs to apply to the Office of Public Guardianship for Deputyship. Obviously, she has been happy up till now for you to be able to care for her, but it should be made clear just who does have legal responsibility for her care. Since MIL attends a Day Centre, again I am presuming ( I do that a bit:rolleyes:) that she has had a Needs Assessment from the Social Services and that she gets Attendance Allowance ( higher rate). I guess your hours of work probably preclude you from getting Carer's Allowance, but you should still be registered as MIL's carer.

Since the chaos of now is manageable, you might need to look a bit further forward and perhaps have a look at some local Care Homes, just in case.... just in case Mum needs you more than MIL..... just in case.... the lads need a break from caring....just in case MIL's needs change..... just in case!:eek:;)


You and OH have a lot to contend with. Be practical and get your own paperwork, wills POAs etc in order too. Your family links are tenuous in part, and complicated. Try to make your own lives as uncomplicated as you can.

We'll always be here to lend an ear, a sounding board, a hug, a bit of practical advice....just pop in whenever you like. .........

and take care of you!:D:D
 

Duggies-girl

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Cassandra69

Oh dear, you sound a lot like me but with different problems. Since my mum died 6 years ago it has been one thing after another. I have written to myself about them, helps a bit.

Same here, a bit too much wine on occasions, gave up smoking years ago but enjoy an odd spliff with a friend once in a while.

Mum had an aortic aneurysm which eventually killed her after many years of health problems. She made me promise to get tested for it. I will one day.:)

You are doing your best, same as me.

Big hug for you.
 

Risa

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Apr 13, 2015
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Hi Cassandra69

I'm very sorry about your Mum's prognosis and you must obviously want to spend as much time with her as you can supporting her. I think you should be looking at getting as much outside help for your MIL as possible, be that a daycare centre 5 days a week, a sitting service in the evenings or, if things are getting too much, looking at a carehome. If your Mum sold her house to move in with you then this will make things easier as you won't need to go via Social Services.

Whatever you decide, be kind to yourself and don't feel guilty if you have to change the present set-up to something more manageable {{{hugs}}}
 

Cassandra69

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Sep 17, 2017
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Thank you xxx

Hello all,

Thank you so much for your kind, supportive and practical words; it really means the world and I apologise for not addressing everyone individually right now but I am in the shop and keeping one eye on a potential customer and one on MIL.....

Having done a bot of research I took the bull by the horns this morning and rang my surgery to book an appointment, expecting the usual "oh we have nothing for at least two weeks", however, when I explained everything to the receptionist I was offered 11.40AM today with the nurse practitioner, who then got bloods taken there and then and results should be back by the end of the week - I think she is testing me for absolutely everything, so if nothing else I am having an MOT of sorts which is pretty overdue anyway....and I have a follow up appointment next Monday with a GP. By then I should have more info from my Mum too.

Much as I was balking at going, my Mum was very relieved that I have taken the first steps to hopefully being cleared of immediate risk, which is what was worrying her I think. her modus operandi is always practical and get on with it so I am glad I did it for her anyway....

With regard to my MIL I am the second on the POA - yes she is my new partners Mum - sorry for any confusion ! As to how things will go with my MUm, her biggest fear is that the cancer will affect her brain, so i suspect we will have the conversation about all that when the results of her biopsy come back.

Thank you so much for allowing me to dip in and offload - I will try to take care of myself and we have so many things going on with promoting our shop, especially coming up to Halloween - our busiest time hopefully - that I really can't afford to drop any of my balls so to speak....

Much love to you all xxx
 

Slugsta

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Aug 25, 2015
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Hi Cassandra and a belated welcome to TP.

What a terrible load you have on your shoulders! :( You have had wise words from fellow TPers, I will just emphasise 2 things - Firstly, please come here and let off steam whenever you like, your posts don't have to be dementia related. Secondly, get as much outside help as you can, for your MIL, mother and yourself, you are going to need every ounce of your energy in the coming months (((hugs))).
 

Harrys daughter

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Just want to say welcome and wow what a read that was and your sence of houmer..... (sorry I'm dyslexic).... and strength will carry you through nut take wherever support is offered keep posting x
 

MollyD

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Mar 27, 2016
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Welcome, Cassandra.

I just don't know what to say at the moment in response to your devastating news and ongoing struggles/situation, apart from that I'm very sorry.

Sending you a huge virtual (((hug))). Do keep posting. X