good advice from Nitram as always.
we were asked to fund top ups for my Mum's care under section 117. I refused ( and would advise you do the same ) because in our case she has her own assets and I know she would never have expected us to go without whilst she could have funded herself! I think as mentioned before they can now top up themselves, but this is only if there is something available at the LA rate and the patient wants something better.
However it meant Mum lingered in hospital and things got a bit nasty, that horrid sort of nasty that meant I was not sure who the bad guy here was but by the vibes given out I thought it must be me.
However a home came up at the local authority rate so top ups were not an issue. Really it was a disaster however. Mum never settled as she was too much for them to cope with and rejected the whole nursing home environment ( can't blame her really) Eventually evicted and back into an assessment unit for 9 months. Forced out of there into another unsatisfactory environment. Eviction notice served again.
She is now on one to one care which is costing a fortune. (I think shared between LA and CCG though I dont really know, thank goodness I am not paying top ups or Mum as it would get too complicated) I am of course so greatful for this as I am able after so long ( its nearly 4 years now since she was sectioned) able to sleep at night knowing she is as safe as possible.
You have a fight on your hands to be sure, but I think the mental health act states somewhere that the person who is sectioned should not have their discharge delayed due to squables over funding.
BTW we got a lawyer involved when we were asked to pay top ups. it cost £250 but after that the LA kind of backed down and agreed no top ups, but we never had to push it further because a bed became available at LA rate, but I was impressed at how things changed when we got the lawyer.
We found this again when she got evicted the second time and we appointed the same lawyer. We never actually had to even pay the lawyer, we just apponted her again and suddenly,just when I thought Mum would end up in a police cell as a place of safelt, things suddenly came together.
Anyway I dont know what I am really saying here, but in truth Mum and I have been to hell and back with this, but in the end the authorities (whoever they are ) did somehow step up and take responsibility, and for that I am eternally greatful. i do think if they had got things right in the first place she may have settled and it would have been cheaper in the long run, but I'll never know.
we were asked to fund top ups for my Mum's care under section 117. I refused ( and would advise you do the same ) because in our case she has her own assets and I know she would never have expected us to go without whilst she could have funded herself! I think as mentioned before they can now top up themselves, but this is only if there is something available at the LA rate and the patient wants something better.
However it meant Mum lingered in hospital and things got a bit nasty, that horrid sort of nasty that meant I was not sure who the bad guy here was but by the vibes given out I thought it must be me.
However a home came up at the local authority rate so top ups were not an issue. Really it was a disaster however. Mum never settled as she was too much for them to cope with and rejected the whole nursing home environment ( can't blame her really) Eventually evicted and back into an assessment unit for 9 months. Forced out of there into another unsatisfactory environment. Eviction notice served again.
She is now on one to one care which is costing a fortune. (I think shared between LA and CCG though I dont really know, thank goodness I am not paying top ups or Mum as it would get too complicated) I am of course so greatful for this as I am able after so long ( its nearly 4 years now since she was sectioned) able to sleep at night knowing she is as safe as possible.
You have a fight on your hands to be sure, but I think the mental health act states somewhere that the person who is sectioned should not have their discharge delayed due to squables over funding.
BTW we got a lawyer involved when we were asked to pay top ups. it cost £250 but after that the LA kind of backed down and agreed no top ups, but we never had to push it further because a bed became available at LA rate, but I was impressed at how things changed when we got the lawyer.
We found this again when she got evicted the second time and we appointed the same lawyer. We never actually had to even pay the lawyer, we just apponted her again and suddenly,just when I thought Mum would end up in a police cell as a place of safelt, things suddenly came together.
Anyway I dont know what I am really saying here, but in truth Mum and I have been to hell and back with this, but in the end the authorities (whoever they are ) did somehow step up and take responsibility, and for that I am eternally greatful. i do think if they had got things right in the first place she may have settled and it would have been cheaper in the long run, but I'll never know.