Question of continuing health care funding.

[emwmarine]

Much to my surprise my mum has qualified into continuing health care funding when she was assessed in hospital just before discharge.

We placed her in an Alzheimers specialist care home rather than a nursing home, partly because that was the only one with vacancies that we liked and partly because they were the only ones who felt they could cope with her challenging wandering and falls risk. None of the nursing homes wanted to know.

The lady who phoned me said that continuing care was only provided to nursing homes and not if she is in a 'residential home'.

Is this the case? Do I have to find a nursing home and move her to get the funding, or was the lady wrong?

 

[jeany123]

I think she is wrong, if you scroll down to the bottom of this link it explains it there, she could get it at home so why not in a dementia residential CH

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/dementia-guide/pages/dementia-and-care-homes.aspx

 

[lin1]

Hi. I too think she is wrong. I haven't read the link Jeany gave but am pretty sure I have read on here that someone was granted CHC when they lived at home.

I knew I hadn't imagined it.
This is from NHS choices
http://www.nhs.uk/CarersDirect/guide/practicalsupport/Pages/NHSContinuingCare.aspx

 

[Saffie]

Yes, the lady is wrong about having to be in a nursing home but the CHC still have to approve that the home is appropriate and can fulfill the needs of the resident they are funding and is also charging acceptable fees.
They are footing the bill so will not want to pay more than they have to and, a we know, the funding is only awarded for serious health needs.

 

[loza]

Chc

I am amazed by CHC I think my mum is going to lose hers as she no longer has any capacity and does not walk, they say 'she is much more settled' you just want to sream no, she is not better but it seems to be the worse the Dementia gets they then do not have to bother and you have to pay for your care home fees yourself, mum does not do anything for herself at all but this is classed as 'social care' what a strange world we live in.

 

[emwmarine]

Thanks everyone. As soon as I see something in writing i'll give an update.

 

[geum123]

I am amazed by CHC I think my mum is going to lose hers as she no longer has any capacity and does not walk, they say 'she is much more settled' you just want to sream no, she is not better but it seems to be the worse the Dementia gets they then do not have to bother and you have to pay for your care home fees yourself, mum does not do anything for herself at all but this is classed as 'social care' what a strange world we live in.

Hi Loza,
It's a common stunt they seem to be getting away with unless challenged.
The reality is it's all about £££££

In reality, your Mums needs will be more intense.
Also as states in the DST framework "a managed need is still a need."

It would be worth challenging the decision if they withdraw NHSCC

 

[loza]

It's a common stunt they seem to be getting away with unless challenged.
The reality is it's all about £££££

In reality, your Mums needs will be more intense.
Also as states in the DST framework "a managed need is still a need."

It would be worth challenging the decision if they withdraw NHSCC

Ahh thank you, you just tend to think that their decision is final, so I will await their decision, then challenge it

 

[Nasus]

Ahh thank you, you just tend to think that their decision is final, so I will await their decision, then challenge it

Yes you should follow up on the last assessment of care needs and make sure you are sent the full assessment and a copy of the CHC panel's decision. It's quite difficult to challenge them but you do need all the evidence and a lot of patience. There are people to help you (volunteers) so look for more help if you need it. The help I got was invaluable even though in my father's case they changed their mind twice, did not give me the info and he did not get the money( when eventually successful) until more than 12 months after going into a nursing home. Good luck.

 

[fr0d0]

Ditto Ioza

The NHS tries to fool people into letting them act contrary to the law. Stand up to them and you'll find out that they have no teeth. I wish you well.

 

[lin1]

I was having a bit of a clear out of my subscribed threads and came across this one to do with CHC . going by the replies to the thread it is a verrry long read

I hope you find it helpful .
http://forum.alzheimers.org.uk/showthread.php?72502-Nhs-continuing-health-care-book.