World apparently shrinking?

Whisperer

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Sorry fairly long entry. Only hope I make myself clear. Hard as the subject matter is more emotional and feelings, not practical issues, although they are in the background.

I gave up full time employment in April 17 to better care for my 87yo mother, in the relatively early stages of Vascular Dementia, I now work two nights at weekends, providing a welcome contact with day to day life. The people are friendly but largely have no direct experience of dementia and in turn I do not wish to discuss my mum. This is time away from caring, repeated questions, the need for constant reassurance, etc. Straight forward work and a chance to get a link with what now feels like the “outside world”.

Despite the above I am finding the world is shrinking and my interest in it also. Past hobbies and interests no longer have any appeal, previous work friends have gradually fallen by the way side, my contact with the world is reducing and is now mostly through the prism of my mother’s condition. I appreciate the carer role will get harder both emotionally and physically, I am still in the relatively early stage. But I notice I am increasingly getting the blues, feeling lonely and having to force myself to get more positive. I am not feeling sorry for myself but concerned to stay well mentally to ensure I can take on the more demanding times still to come. At that point I will have little contact with the outside world beyond the caring role. Is this feeling of the world closing in on itself the natural consequence of growing into the caring role? Is always feeling anxious about what is coming next just something you get use to, or is there a technique to quieten it?

My mum is unaware of her reduced cognitive capacity, refuses to go back to the Memory Clinic and would never go to a Carers Support group, etc. The local Carers group allow me to attend, stating quite often the carer joins first and the PWD later when capacity has reduced further. I go but in a way I feel an outsider being there. The Carers talk in a private room in the second half of the session. Several have pressing problems so I mostly sit there and take matters in but feel reluctant to speak when my concerns seem trivial to those of others. The GP tried to talk mum into going back to the Memory Clinic with no success. I have no contact with any medical professional beyond the GP, which bothers me when I think about the later stages of mum’s illness. Again I talk about stages but in reality I do not know where I am on this journey? Mum’s short term memory is gone very largely, long term memories getting badly muddled, she is unaware of being hungry or thirsty, repeatedly asks the same questions, needs reassurance a lot, etc, but if you met her in the street superficially all might appear well. I hear of the hostess mode, etc, but feel lost on some points.

I guess what I am trying to say is I feel very lonely, getting down thinking about what I will need to deal with and stressed when at present I seem without guidance. Slowly but surely I am getting mentally low. I fully appreciate others on this forum have much worse to face. That is part of my problem. I think it is called “anticipatory grief”. Knowing that and confronting it on my own are two different things. Any suggestions of how to give myself a daily pick me up? When you are feeling somewhat low what works for you? Any comments would be much appreciated. Where can I get more explanation of my mum’s illness, or is this forum the best place for practical help?

Hope I have got the balance right. Not self pitying whinger just a human soul feeling lost, concerned about measuring up when push really gets to shrove.
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try again

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I feel for you and understand what you are going through. I too find I can't be bothered with most things as I am constantly worrying.
Can't find enjoyment or interest.
I keep telling myself tomorrow will be different. I may even do some housework.
 

Gingercatlady

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Hello Whisperer,

Like you my mum 83, has vascular dementia and is at the stage where she is very argumentative and suspicious of everyone, she is largely looked after by my dad who is 84 , he cooks and cleans, does the washing and tries to look after mum. She has demonized him anything and everything is his fault. I help out and visit daily after I finish at work.

My dad has been diagnosed with cancer and is going to have an operation that will make him poorly for quite a while. I've been trying to get social services to advise me and they are going to visit soon.

I suppose what I'm saying is that I think I'm going to end up having to become a full time carer like you, and I've also been having similar thoughts to you. Even though I only go round after work at the moment that is having an impact on life and my spare time is none resistant for socialising.

I think it's good to have your part time job for as long as you can, it keeps you out there with other people and gives you a focus. Is there anything local that you could get involved in like a dementia cafe where you could take mum and you could meet other carers. You could also try and make yourself diary dates each week like getting your hair done, or going to a club of some sort (caring commitments allowing) to meet people. I know someone who retired and felt lonely and every day they walk to the local shop and buy a paper or magazine and make a point of acknowledging people who they pass and having a little chat in the shop. Try and think of things you like and make a point of doing them, like watching your favourite TV show, or reading a book whatever takes your fancy and treating yourself to a little time.

I think mostly it's scary and unknown and isolating, use this site it's always here and it's made me feel I am not alone.

Wishing you all the very best, look after yourself
 

karaokePete

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Hello @Whisperer, you are describing a situation that probably every carer here will recognise and empathise with.

I work like a demon at keeping part of each day for things that I do alone, like taking exercise, otherwise I think I would crack up. I recently got the opportunity to let my wife stay with one of her sons for a few days while I got a break and I was astounded by how great that was. The publications list contains a factsheet about needs assessments and you may find that some respite may be available.

There is a factsheet about looking after oneself and you can reach it by clicking on this link https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/sites...downloads/carers_-_looking_after_yourself.pdf

The full publications list can be found with this link https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/get-support/publications-factsheets-full-list

You might also be able to find some support services in your area and you can do a post code search for what's available by following this link https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/find-support-near-you This might help if you can get talking to others in the same position.

On a final note, remember that your GP may be able to help you. I know that some members have found counselling arranged via the GP useful
 

Cazzita

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Hello @Whisperer, I really feel for you and know some of what you feel as most on here probably do. I feel consumed with this damn dementia thing - it really is taking over my life and I do find it depressing and like you, I am finding that nothing really sustains my interest.
But, for sanity's sake, we have to take time out and away from it to be ourselves.
Treat yourself to something, even if it is just time out, read if you can, watch a Netfilx series that grabs your attention and distracts you.
Talk on here, we will always hear you and answer you X
 

Whisperer

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[QUOTE="Cazzita, post: 1574902, member: 74136

Dear Cazzita thank you for replying to my post. The hardest thing is as you say this “damn dementia thing”, hating the illness then being washed over with guilt for feeling that way. Siblings move on with holidays, social lives, unable apparently to digest what is right in front of them at times. Everyone seems to view you through the prism of the loved one’s illness, apparently unable to see the actual individual. Oh hello how is your mother. After a while you feel invisible. Well this morning I decided to revisit an old friend who only gives and again he gave. His name is Beethoven, his mate is Mozart. Head phones on Emperor concerto and let’s forget for an hour or so. Funny in times of stress and self doubt we give up on what gives us pleasure, paradoxically when we most need it. Apparently ranting here cleared the mental processes. I know nothing of your circumstances but close in wishing you the best on your carer path. No one asks to be put on this road. However you ended up on it take care.
 

Whisperer

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Dear Karaoke Pete. Your user name is interesting, perhaps a story to tell? Thank you for the links you supplied. A very useful supply of information. Strangely I will review in future days, learning more about an illness my mother is unaware she has. We watched an article on the BBC this morning about dementia. Mum stated it must be dreadful to not remember things. We had blood tests at the doctors Monday, saw the foot lady Tuesday, ASDA shop on Wednesday. Ask my mum about any of this and I would find she has no recollection. Yes mum it is dreadful. The hardest thing is knowing you have this illness, dealing alone with the consequences but not being able to discuss it with you. Mum not in denial just unable to understand her reducing mental capacity. Better than fear of it, but it makes me feel so alone. Then guilty for feeling that way. Mum has the problem, others face far worse. Get a grip I tell myself. So today I have put on the headphones and listened to Beethoven. Got mum through her shower and now I am making the ultimate sacrifice, sitting with her listening to Jim Reeves. Truely a noble gesture. And yes I appear to have got my sense of humour back today. Thank you for your reply. Keep well in the future.
 

Whisperer

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Dear Gingercat Lady. I am fascinated by some of the user names on this site. When I was a child we had a ginger cat visit our garden from a neighbouring house. Shy at first it ended up following me around the garden as my secret friend. “You can only stay if dad does not see you. He thinks you are a s.... machine, but I am not sure what that is”. He spoke cat and I replied in four year old small talk. Any way I digress. Thank you for your reply. I am sorry about your mum and the added worry of your dad. I am having some day surgery on two hernias hopefully sometime soon. That has been playing on my mind and in recent weeks, with poorer mental processes developing. My rant on here seemed to help. Reading on a thread where a lady goes and sits in the car and plays music loudly rather than screaming also had an impact. Listened to some favourite music this morning. Why had I stopped doing something so enjoyable when I needed it most? I will restart a book I am half way through. It had dust on it from when I last put it down in June. Things just gradually closed in but now seem t have opened up again. I need to talk my feelings over with someone or no doubt the clouds will return. Thank you for the response. Stay well Gingercat Lady.
 

Whisperer

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Dear Try Again thank you for responding to my thread. Today I read several replies and my posting a rant and receiving replies gave me a lift. Listened to some music and will do so again. Just caught me and lifted the cloud a little. Would it maybe help you? No one asks to be a carer but everyone else seems to have a view on how you should do it. Just done the ironing, raining so the lawns will have to wait. How sad that makes me feel LOL. Genuinely you sound like myself. I see you only joined a few months ago. I know nothing of your background but I joined in the early spring of 2017, apprehensive, anxious, fearful. I cannot say those feelings have gone away and on some days they close in and block any other view. My rant seems to have cleared my mind and now it is up to me to work at trying to stay that way. It seems the best policy is not to think about the future and concentrate on today. Easier said than done but to think of the future certainly does not seem to help. Please take care and thank you for posting a reply.
 

Whisperer

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Dear Canary thank you for your reply. I had seen your posts on other threads but completely missed the point of your avatar and tag line. A very intelligent way of what my rambling email was trying to put across. My rant and receiving replies has done a lot to ease my mind for now. I must be in better cheer as I write this listening to Jim Reeves singing (?) and my mother singing along. We have repeated questioning in this house, but also repeated Jim Reeves listening. How do you distract a CD? Thank you again.
 

karaokePete

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Hello @Whisperer, thank you for your reply.

The tale behind my forum name is simple enough in that my name is Peter and both my wife and I enjoy karaoke. Singing is one of the things that my wife can still do well so I keep her at it.

I like your comment about music choice. My wife loves classical and as a child got to grade 5 on the piano. She also won a scholarship to RADA as a ballerina but didn’t take that opportunity as she was afraid to travel to London on her own. I didn’t know her back then but have seen the certificates and letters so it is sad for me when I now see how she has lost this part of her life as the skills have gone and she now just bad mouths others who aren’t up to scratch in her eyes. Mind you, it gave me a somewhat alarming but funny moment last year when we were in a lift at the top of a high rise and she started violently shaking the thing by launching into ballet dancing. I’m sure the look on my face was worth a fortune as I hugged her tightly and told her to wait until we were on the ground. When she got down she entertained me by doing ballet steps to the door.:D

Getting back to me, I sing in English, Greek, and German as I translate, and then sing, songs as part of self learning the languages, although I have to confess that it’s only the Greek that I have taken beyond the songs as I spend a lot of time in Cyprus. I sing traditional, rock and pop songs so I can fit smoothly into the atmosphere of the bar any night. My increasing dementia related activity means that I spend less time on the Greek now but I hope to return to it at some stage. We’ll be going to Cyprus soon so I’m presently looking forward to singing the dozens of Greek songs that I know.

I hope I didn’t bore you with all that. That’s one of the things I like about the forum - the opportunity to chat with other carers about ourselves sometimes.
 
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Whisperer

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No you did not bore me it was lovely to read. Funny how life works out. My mum met my now deceased dad at a dance at the Portland naval base in 1957. They married and I was born in 1959. Earlier in 1947 her family had moved to Weymouth from the midlands. My mum then qualified as a tailoress and an old midlands friend suggested she return to her home town and they would start a business together. My mum decided against doing so I think lacking confidence at the time. Who knows what would have happened if she had. Certainly being in the midlands again she would not have met my dad and I would not be here typing this email. One decision changes so many unrelated things. I guess the lady of my dreams was at the airport whilst I was waiting for her boat at the ferry port.

Can I take this opportunity to learn something new. My mum always use to say “a penny for your thoughts” when she found someone in deep thought. Is there a Greek equivalent saying? Also what does Ouzo the drink (have I got that right) taste like?

During her life did your wife keep up playing the piano? I love instrumental classical music, particularly piano concertos. I like to watch clips on YouTube where you see a pianist racing around the keyboard creating magic on my ears. It must be wonderful to be able to make an instrument sing as my mum would say. Funny we appear to have overlaps our lifes events. Please enjoy your trip to Cyprus. Thank you for your reply which has now made you a person, granted one I have never met but no longer just a strange heading. By the way I cannot sing for toffees. I would get a singing slot at pub closing times.
 

Lindy50

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I feel for you and understand what you are going through. I too find I can't be bothered with most things as I am constantly worrying.
Can't find enjoyment or interest.
I keep telling myself tomorrow will be different. I may even do some housework.
I'm another one whose world has shrunk almost beyond recognition. Goodness knows, I fought it all the way, from dad's cancer diagnosis in 1992 to his passing away in 2003 and mum's subsequent dementia diagnosis, through caring for her at home to caring for her in a home.....I managed to work until around late 2014 and told myself I'd get back to it....but I got ill myself and it's never been possible. I've lost friends, interests, income etc....thank goodness for my wonderful family, is all I can say.
Now I'm trying to rejoin the world.....want to volunteer a bit, go out to theatres etc a bit and maybe even read......wish me luck :rolleyes:
Lindy xx
 

karaokePete

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Hello @Whisperer, colloquialisms can be difficult in Greek. An example would be when I came across the word for 'my eyes' in song lyrics and that didn't fit in my English translation - it turned out to be how they said 'my love/darling' in the context of songs, which did fit.

The only thing I can think of for you phrase is 'Τι σκέφτεσαι' (Tee skef teh sey), which simply means 'what are you thinking'.

Ouzo tastes of aniseed and I find it refreshing with iced water

I married my wife just 11 years ago, by which time she had stopped playing the piano, but I bought her a keyboard one Christmas as I knew she still had an interest. Regrettably the first dementia symptoms soon began to creep in and dust started to settle on the keys.
 

Gingercatlady

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Dear Gingercat Lady. I am fascinated by some of the user names on this site. When I was a child we had a ginger cat visit our garden from a neighbouring house. Shy at first it ended up following me around the garden as my secret friend. “You can only stay if dad does not see you. He thinks you are a s.... machine, but I am not sure what that is”. He spoke cat and I replied in four year old small talk. Any way I digress. Thank you for your reply. I am sorry about your mum and the added worry of your dad. I am having some day surgery on two hernias hopefully sometime soon. That has been playing on my mind and in recent weeks, with poorer mental processes developing. My rant on here seemed to help. Reading on a thread where a lady goes and sits in the car and plays music loudly rather than screaming also had an impact. Listened to some favourite music this morning. Why had I stopped doing something so enjoyable when I needed it most? I will restart a book I am half way through. It had dust on it from when I last put it down in June. Things just gradually closed in but now seem t have opened up again. I need to talk my feelings over with someone or no doubt the clouds will return. Thank you for the response. Stay well Gingercat Lady.
 

Gingercatlady

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It's good to read that you have been able to pick yourself up a bit, may that continue. We all need to 'off load' now and again. This is a tool to give you that opportunity and to give you support and advice.

I am the proud owner of a ginger cat, I always wanted one as a child and finally I've got one. He is gorgeous if a little crazy and definitely naughty.

My book has got dust on too but inspired by you I'm going to give it another go - see we're helping each other.

Keep your sense of humour, it may take a day off from time to time but try to keep a hold on it. Best wishes stay happy and well
 

maryjoan

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Sorry fairly long entry. Only hope I make myself clear. Hard as the subject matter is more emotional and feelings, not practical issues, although they are in the background.

I gave up full time employment in April 17 to better care for my 87yo mother, in the relatively early stages of Vascular Dementia, I now work two nights at weekends, providing a welcome contact with day to day life. The people are friendly but largely have no direct experience of dementia and in turn I do not wish to discuss my mum. This is time away from caring, repeated questions, the need for constant reassurance, etc. Straight forward work and a chance to get a link with what now feels like the “outside world”.

Despite the above I am finding the world is shrinking and my interest in it also. Past hobbies and interests no longer have any appeal, previous work friends have gradually fallen by the way side, my contact with the world is reducing and is now mostly through the prism of my mother’s condition. I appreciate the carer role will get harder both emotionally and physically, I am still in the relatively early stage. But I notice I am increasingly getting the blues, feeling lonely and having to force myself to get more positive. I am not feeling sorry for myself but concerned to stay well mentally to ensure I can take on the more demanding times still to come. At that point I will have little contact with the outside world beyond the caring role. Is this feeling of the world closing in on itself the natural consequence of growing into the caring role? Is always feeling anxious about what is coming next just something you get use to, or is there a technique to quieten it?

My mum is unaware of her reduced cognitive capacity, refuses to go back to the Memory Clinic and would never go to a Carers Support group, etc. The local Carers group allow me to attend, stating quite often the carer joins first and the PWD later when capacity has reduced further. I go but in a way I feel an outsider being there. The Carers talk in a private room in the second half of the session. Several have pressing problems so I mostly sit there and take matters in but feel reluctant to speak when my concerns seem trivial to those of others. The GP tried to talk mum into going back to the Memory Clinic with no success. I have no contact with any medical professional beyond the GP, which bothers me when I think about the later stages of mum’s illness. Again I talk about stages but in reality I do not know where I am on this journey? Mum’s short term memory is gone very largely, long term memories getting badly muddled, she is unaware of being hungry or thirsty, repeatedly asks the same questions, needs reassurance a lot, etc, but if you met her in the street superficially all might appear well. I hear of the hostess mode, etc, but feel lost on some points.

I guess what I am trying to say is I feel very lonely, getting down thinking about what I will need to deal with and stressed when at present I seem without guidance. Slowly but surely I am getting mentally low. I fully appreciate others on this forum have much worse to face. That is part of my problem. I think it is called “anticipatory grief”. Knowing that and confronting it on my own are two different things. Any suggestions of how to give myself a daily pick me up? When you are feeling somewhat low what works for you? Any comments would be much appreciated. Where can I get more explanation of my mum’s illness, or is this forum the best place for practical help?

Hope I have got the balance right. Not self pitying whinger just a human soul feeling lost, concerned about measuring up when push really gets to shrove.
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I could have written this - apart from my PWD is my partner - we are lost together, my dear absolutely everything you say rings so very very true to me........... the forum is the best place for practical help, really a life saver - daily pick you up - I just go and walk around my small garden the windier the weather is the better !!!! Others will have better solutions (big smile) Got to go - watch Pointless yet again, then play scrabble yet again and again......
 

Canadian Joanne

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I am the proud owner of a ginger cat, I always wanted one as a child and finally I've got one. He is gorgeous if a little crazy and definitely naughty.

May I interject and say it's more being owned by a cat? :D My avatar is my old boy Loki who has been gone for 3 1/2 years but certainly not forgotten.

I think ginger cats are definitely crazy. Apparently the Vikings were huge fans of ginger cats and their trade (and pillaging) routes can be measured by the population of ginger cats. This does say a lot about them to me! The cats, I mean, not the Vikings.

I have a friend who has a ginger that likes to be hoovered. She even posted a video on Youtube - enjoy!
 

Gingercatlady

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May I interject and say it's more being owned by a cat? :D My avatar is my old boy Loki who has been gone for 3 1/2 years but certainly not forgotten.

I think ginger cats are definitely crazy. Apparently the Vikings were huge fans of ginger cats and their trade (and pillaging) routes can be measured by the population of ginger cats. This does say a lot about them to me! The cats, I mean, not the Vikings.

I have a friend who has a ginger that likes to be hoovered. She even posted a video on Youtube - enjoy!
 

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