If you contact Beacon you will be able to download/or request a free written copy of their navigational toolkit on CHC- this includes a legal background guide, guide to CHC assessments and a guide to CHC appeals. They also say that they are able to provide up to 90 minutes of free advice. I requested written copies and the documents arrived within a few days - the documents are very comprehensive. Sorry the system will not allow me to post their email link but I expect it will come up if you search for Beacon.
CHC (Continuing Healthcare) support thread
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Yes, they're different. The NHS fully fund care under CHC if you can get them to agree that the health needs are paramount and their general definition is that AZ is a social need not a medical one.
Nursing care is availably to anyone who's care in part consists of an element of nursing/medical needs the care home has to be registered as providing nursing care see the link below.
My wife currently gets £156pw (paid to the home) to cover this element of her care.
K
http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/what-is-nhs-funded-nursing-care.aspx
I am still trying to get my head around this CHC business but find so much confusing and conflicting advice out there.
Yesterday I was reading that the Care doesn't HAVE to be in a nursing home which is not what the post above says.
TBH I just don't know where to begin now.
There is a firm out there who specialise in sorting CHC for people . Has anybody tried them. Not sure if I am allowed to name them.
Yesterday I was reading that the Care doesn't HAVE to be in a nursing home which is not what the post above says.
TBH I just don't know where to begin now.
There is a firm out there who specialise in sorting CHC for people . Has anybody tried them. Not sure if I am allowed to name them.
FNC (funded nursing care) has to be in a nursing home, it is a contribution to the home to help fund the nurse(s).
CHC (continuing hospital care) can be in a care home, nursing home, or at home, it is unlikely to be in a care home. If it is in a residential home it is broadly analogous to being in hospital and benefit such as AA cease after 28 days, if CHC is at home benefits are kept.
CHC (continuing hospital care) can be in a care home, nursing home, or at home, it is unlikely to be in a care home. If it is in a residential home it is broadly analogous to being in hospital and benefit such as AA cease after 28 days, if CHC is at home benefits are kept.
It is a different funding but comes from the same process. An assessment for CHC has to take place first and it is either granted or not.
If not granted the same assessment may deem you eligible for FNC.
The letter writing in my area is quite confusing as I got a letter saying "Not eligible for funding" and then a few weeks later saying "Entitled to FNC".
Here's two flowcharts that may help you understand the process.
Replace any references to PCT (the forerunner of CCG) with CCG.
http://www.westsuffolkccg.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/SOP-Checklist-Flow-Chart-v6-17-2-14.pdf
http://www.iewm.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/12-09-24-updated-CHC-flowchart-for-PCTs.pdf
Replace any references to PCT (the forerunner of CCG) with CCG.
http://www.westsuffolkccg.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/SOP-Checklist-Flow-Chart-v6-17-2-14.pdf
http://www.iewm.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/12-09-24-updated-CHC-flowchart-for-PCTs.pdf
CHC 'period of assessment'
Hello and help please! Currently almost 4 years in to fighting CHC decision that funding not eligible for my mother. We are now at the Ombudsman stage.
Somewhere around 3.5 years in (and just before the IRP) someone at the CCG happened to mention on the phone that the 4 month 'period of assessment' back at the start in relation to the DST was not just a window of clinical review, but the period for which retrospective funding would apply, should the decision be overturned. This had not been raised with us at any point in the process by the CCG and was only mentioned in passing, whilst I was on the phone to them about something else entirely. Prior to this call it had always been positioned as a 'clinical window' to enable them to assess my mother, which made sense. It seems far too spurious to be true, so we continued preparing for the IRP. Other people we had met who had had the funding decision overturned confirmed this was ridiculous and funding (should it be awarded) would be awarded from that period of review going forwards (the clue is in the name surely? - continuous!)
The Ombudsman has looked in to it now for us and has confirmed that that period of assessment would apply to any funding retrospectively awarded and not going forwards from those dates. Extraordinary surely....? Can anyone shed light? I seem to have wasted 4 years chasing nothing, which nobody cared to mention at the start of the process.
Hello and help please! Currently almost 4 years in to fighting CHC decision that funding not eligible for my mother. We are now at the Ombudsman stage.
Somewhere around 3.5 years in (and just before the IRP) someone at the CCG happened to mention on the phone that the 4 month 'period of assessment' back at the start in relation to the DST was not just a window of clinical review, but the period for which retrospective funding would apply, should the decision be overturned. This had not been raised with us at any point in the process by the CCG and was only mentioned in passing, whilst I was on the phone to them about something else entirely. Prior to this call it had always been positioned as a 'clinical window' to enable them to assess my mother, which made sense. It seems far too spurious to be true, so we continued preparing for the IRP. Other people we had met who had had the funding decision overturned confirmed this was ridiculous and funding (should it be awarded) would be awarded from that period of review going forwards (the clue is in the name surely? - continuous!)
The Ombudsman has looked in to it now for us and has confirmed that that period of assessment would apply to any funding retrospectively awarded and not going forwards from those dates. Extraordinary surely....? Can anyone shed light? I seem to have wasted 4 years chasing nothing, which nobody cared to mention at the start of the process.
You could ask AS for clarification/help.
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I am going to have to get my act together and REALLY look into Continuing Care for my Mum.
I met someone recently who said they got it for their elderly mother and it was very straightforward. I have spoken to other people on forums and they said it's really, really hard to get.
I met someone recently who said they got it for their elderly mother and it was very straightforward. I have spoken to other people on forums and they said it's really, really hard to get.
After reading about some of the difficulties that people on this forum had had, I was prepared for a battle when I applied for CHC on behalf of my dad. In the end it was a pretty straightforward process which resulted in his being in approved for funding.
A lot can depend on the CCG responsible for your area. They interpret the criteria in their own way and there are tremendous difference in the 'success rate' as a result.
That's very good to hear! There is an article about CHC with advice on the Times site today.
I just need a few days absolutely free of anything else to get on and sort this out. I have other family commitments, we run a business and visiting my Mum, dealing with the sale of her house, clearing her house etc.
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Just tried locating this but couldn't find a recent news article? Any idea how to access it? SnowWhite?
The Times paywall will mean it's not available unless you subscribe lemonjuice.
Lemon juice - I signed up and you can see a couple of articles, didn't pay anything.
Glad to hear that. Thanks for the tip SnowWhite. I've never tried to get articles and will now know the score.
"I've never tried to get articles and will now know the score."
If you go for the offer of two free articles per week you will need an email address which they could use for a lot of promotional emails, they may even use different 'from' addresses making it difficult to block.
You could sign up using a temporary email e.g.https://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html?dswid=4131
You will still be able to log in using this email but it will not actually exist, any emails sent to it will disappear into cyberspace.
If you go for the offer of two free articles per week you will need an email address which they could use for a lot of promotional emails, they may even use different 'from' addresses making it difficult to block.
You could sign up using a temporary email e.g.https://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html?dswid=4131
You will still be able to log in using this email but it will not actually exist, any emails sent to it will disappear into cyberspace.
From today's DM.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/news/article-4729936/NHS-care-fund-don-t-tell-about.html
Why they don't tell you about CHC
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/news/article-4729936/NHS-care-fund-don-t-tell-about.html
Why they don't tell you about CHC
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